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Rob
03-24-2009, 03:47 AM
Does anyone here use miniatures in their campaigns? If so which ones?

Does anyone here have any from Thunderbolt Mountain? They look gorgeous on the website, but they're also listed as 25mm which makes me think most others will dwarf them.

aramis
03-24-2009, 08:53 AM
Minis, not really. Counters, yes. But only for battles. (I devised a more wargame-like battle system which really works quite well...)

I have used 6mm Bretonian (GW) a few times. I don't have enough stands to make it worthwhile for what I'm doing, tho'.

SirDynadan
03-24-2009, 08:38 PM
I use minis for most combat scenes.

My minis come from all sorts of sources. Pre-painted D&D or Mage Knight minis. Pewter minis that we hand-paint. Warhammer Bretonnian figures. Whatever catches my eye as appropriate and fits into my limited budget.

I usually use either my chessex battle-map or one of the maps that was put out for the Lord of the Rings Combat Hex game.

Hambone
03-24-2009, 08:45 PM
We use miniatures for battles with the new book of Battles. But just as markers.

Merlin
03-24-2009, 09:16 PM
I haven't as yet dipped into the world of minatures - except as others have said as markers for battles. For that I've used figures from my copy of the board game Shadows Over Camelot (fantastic game, well worth getting I say).

Incidentally, don't forget Greg's page on minatures here: http://www.weareallus.com/pendragon/1miniatures.html Some great examples there. Also has a sub-page with links to minature producers: http://www.weareallus.com/pendragon/figureslinks.html

Luned
03-25-2009, 01:45 AM
I like some of the female figures from Reaper. Most of them are more fantasy-y than is appropriate for Pendragon, but some are fine. And some are good with a bit of modding. My current Pendragon fig was a Reaper fairy princess figure that I took the wings off of.

ChipHaus
03-25-2009, 03:01 AM
Back when I used to play D&D (pre AD&D) I was the one who introduced minis into our games. I had the old Ral Partha figs.
Foolishly, I sold off all my dark ages/fantasy figures.
If I ever run Pendragon (not too likely with my group, sad to say) I would go with Thunderbolt Mountain. His sculpts are too good to pass up.
I wouldn't worry too much about scale differences, some people are taller than others.
Another option I may go with are the counters from Cry Havoc.
If you haven't seen them they are really good paintings of knights, footmen, etc. including mounted and dismounted.

Chip

Hzark10
03-25-2009, 03:51 AM
With the new battle system, I think minis will add to the enjoyment of everything. You can see at a glance the various positions and where you are.

I can speak from experience that we have enjoyed minis/cardboard figures/dice to explain/show where things are. I feel this will continue.

bigsteveuk
03-25-2009, 04:54 PM
You can't beat the Foundry if you got time to paint them!!!

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/BIGBATSAX/1/index.asp

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/BIGBATLR/1/index.asp

Hambone
03-25-2009, 07:18 PM
Whadda ya think? with all the new strictli MINI'S games coming out and doing well , Like star wars, and D&D , etc... we could get a sweet Pendragon Mini's game if it was possible? I actually don't play Mini's but if Pendragon made some, I just might.Just a dream, ya know :P

Rob
03-26-2009, 03:42 PM
You can't beat the Foundry if you got time to paint them!!!

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/BIGBATSAX/1/index.asp

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/BIGBATLR/1/index.asp


Foundry does make nice figures although they're rather overpriced compared to their competition. You can get 6 cavalry or 12-16 footmen from foundry for $46US or 10 cavalry from a company like Old Glory for $35 and 30 infantry for $30. In my opinion there's are stylistic differences between the two but overall quality is similar.

I'm curious if anyone has the thunderbolt miniatures. They look really really well done, and Greg mentions them before any of the others in his recommendations. On the other hand they're listed as 25mm and which might mean they're smaller than most others listed as 28mm (which are typically 28-32mm these days). I've seen old RAFM and Ral Partha figs from the 80s that look good, but don't even look to be in scale compared to other (theoretically in scale) figures like the Bretonians from Games Workshop.

So for those of you with figures what company do you buy from and how do you like them?

Hambone
03-26-2009, 06:25 PM
The only figurines I can get locally are the plastic Brettonoan knights from games workshop. They are a lot more work than they are worth. I need pewter. They are so much better. I use to have a lot of the fantasy Ral Partha figurines and I was usually pretty happy with them.

Hambone
03-26-2009, 06:36 PM
Say... BIGSTEVE When u order from foundry can u order the mimiatures pre-painted or do u have to do them urself?

SirDynadan
03-26-2009, 07:38 PM
Whadda ya think? with all the new strictli MINI'S games coming out and doing well , Like star wars, and D&D , etc... we could get a sweet Pendragon Mini's game if it was possible? I actually don't play Mini's but if Pendragon made some, I just might.Just a dream, ya know :P


Doesn't seem very likely to happen. I'd buy it though.

aramis
03-27-2009, 08:41 AM
One other thought: Plastic 20mm

While I've not bought their european stuff, I have bought zvezda's samurai sets. EXCELLENT 20mm in flexible plastics. Take acrylics well, but you MUST have a complete and dry basecoat before proceeding.

They are light, durable, and can be reposed with boiling water and cold water. (Hold in boiling for 5-7 sec, pull out, repose, shove in icewater.) Detail level comparable to most metal 20mm.

http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/newplastic_folder/Zvezda/Zvezda72.html is where I've purchased from. Typically $10-$15 a box, for 20-50 figures.

bigsteveuk
03-27-2009, 09:59 AM
Say... BIGSTEVE When u order from foundry can u order the mimiatures pre-painted or do u have to do them urself?

I think you maybe able to get them painted through the Foundry, but I think it would be very expensive as I believe it's an on demand service.

With regards to plastic, if you don't mind a Roman feel to them, these look amazing quality.

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/

Another option which is cheap and pre-painted is paper, I have bought and used these

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?cPath=1684 (Arion Games)

I was even sad enough to mod the shield in photoshop and put the crests on them!!

SirDynadan
03-27-2009, 06:26 PM
One other thought: Plastic 20mm

While I've not bought their european stuff, I have bought zvezda's samurai sets. EXCELLENT 20mm in flexible plastics. Take acrylics well, but you MUST have a complete and dry basecoat before proceeding.

They are light, durable, and can be reposed with boiling water and cold water. (Hold in boiling for 5-7 sec, pull out, repose, shove in icewater.) Detail level comparable to most metal 20mm.

http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/newplastic_folder/Zvezda/Zvezda72.html is where I've purchased from. Typically $10-$15 a box, for 20-50 figures.


Wow. Those are pretty cheap. I'm tempted to pick up some of those.

aramis
03-27-2009, 07:22 PM
I can attest to the quality of the Zvezda and Ceasar brands; I use both for L5R.

I can't speak for the others, but MichToy's photos of the naked sprues are very faithful to what I got.

Also note: Cav are the same figures both mounted and afoot.

Sven
03-29-2009, 08:39 PM
I have the Thunderbolt Mountain Miniatures & they are great - very reminiscent of the old drawings in my Arthurian Books as a child. The detail is clear & crisp. Well worth it. They don't have the chunky feel of most Foundry minis but are rather nicely & realistically proportioned. The only problem I have is that they are the only ones Tom Myer makes to that scale. His elves, goblins, etc are all 30mm.

Thunderbolt Mountain minis are Highly recommended!

Sven
03-29-2009, 08:42 PM
Additionally, during some playtesting at Greg's house, I did up his battle sheet on a standard sheet of paper & we used some Baccus 6mm Sarmatian Cavalry I painted up as markers. Baccus also puts out some very nice miniatures, though on a small scale rather than the larger more Heroic scales that most people desire.
Skal,
Sven

Hambone
03-29-2009, 08:57 PM
If sven says it I've gotta trust him! ;D Ive talked to sven before and The man knows his mini's!

Hzark10
03-29-2009, 10:15 PM
I have used Thunderbolt, GW, and historical. Mostly, it doesn't seem to matter for the regular armies, but for PCs minis, Thunderbolt is one of the favorites.

The various other postings, I will look into. Thanks for the input.

doorknobdeity
03-30-2009, 05:30 AM
Another option which is cheap and pre-painted is paper, I have bought and used these

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?cPath=1684 (Arion Games)

I was even sad enough to mod the shield in photoshop and put the crests on them!!

They even have a King Arthur bundle set.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=29244&it=1

aramis
03-30-2009, 09:07 AM
Arion Games' stuff is rather well done. Nice, print out well.

Use 110# card, then laminate both sides with cheap package tape, THEN cut and fold, and tape together, and they become quite durable.

Bonus for the package tape: Overhead pens... you can write on them, then wipe off with a damp bit of paper towel. (Old SFBer, I am...)

Note also: if you instead use either Con-Tac's non-glare clear, or Scotch brand "Invisble Tape", you can use pencil... it's not dark, so use a dark soft pencil, rather than a #2...

Rob
03-30-2009, 06:28 PM
I have the Thunderbolt Mountain Miniatures & they are great - very reminiscent of the old drawings in my Arthurian Books as a child. The detail is clear & crisp. Well worth it. They don't have the chunky feel of most Foundry minis but are rather nicely & realistically proportioned. The only problem I have is that they are the only ones Tom Myer makes to that scale. His elves, goblins, etc are all 30mm.

Thunderbolt Mountain minis are Highly recommended!


So how do the Thunderbolt Arthurians look compared to other minis, such Thunderbolts own 30mms or Foundry? Do they seem out of scale when seen with other products?

I really like the look of the Thunderbolt Arthurians, but I wonder how they'll fit in amongst other manufacturers products.

Sven
03-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Firstly: Sir Palomydes the Saracen: Aww shucks man, you've got me blushing. Did you like the Baccus 6mm's I brought down for that one evening where we were testing the battle system?

Rob: That is my one frustration with the Thunderbolt Arthurian series, they are noticeably smaller and seem more slender than other manufacturers because they modeled to "true scale" and realistic body proportions rather than the usual "heroic scale" and exaggerated body proportions that other manufacturers use. Also because his Arthurians are true 25's & his others are true 30's they don't match. It is my sole frustration with them.

So in short, they don't match other mini lines well. I'll try to take some photos in the near future with model comparisons. I need to wait until I get some of my mini's back from the Art Walk display (I was this month's featured artist with my miniatures & art-maps), plus I've been buried for almost 5 months keeping 3 editors happy with writing projects & 4 writers wanting maps. I'm twitching, LOL!

Skal,
Sir Sven, von, zu, und auf Luger KSO, KSH





I have the Thunderbolt Mountain Miniatures & they are great - very reminiscent of the old drawings in my Arthurian Books as a child. The detail is clear & crisp. Well worth it. They don't have the chunky feel of most Foundry minis but are rather nicely & realistically proportioned. The only problem I have is that they are the only ones Tom Myer makes to that scale. His elves, goblins, etc are all 30mm.

Thunderbolt Mountain minis are Highly recommended!


So how do the Thunderbolt Arthurians look compared to other minis, such Thunderbolts own 30mms or Foundry? Do they seem out of scale when seen with other products?

I really like the look of the Thunderbolt Arthurians, but I wonder how they'll fit in amongst other manufacturers products.

Hambone
03-30-2009, 07:37 PM
You know.. Thunderboldt is great, but I kinda wish that they made other Arthurian figures that were NON-SPECIFIC. More generic pieces to be used in the game. I think that although I like Their work, Foundry probably is who I will go with for most of my mini's. But I will collect tunderbolt for fun.

Rob
03-30-2009, 07:59 PM
Firstly: Sir Palomydes the Saracen: Aww shucks man, you've got me blushing. Did you like the Baccus 6mm's I brought down for that one evening where we were testing the battle system?

Rob: That is my one frustration with the Thunderbolt Arthurian series, they are noticeably smaller and seem more slender than other manufacturers because they modeled to "true scale" and realistic body proportions rather than the usual "heroic scale" and exaggerated body proportions that other manufacturers use. Also because his Arthurians are true 25's & his others are true 30's they don't match. It is my sole frustration with them.
So in short, they don't match other mini lines well. I'll try to take some photos in the near future with model comparisons


Drat! I was afraid you would say that. Have seen the LotR minis from GW? I've heard they're done in true 25mm and wonder if those might be compatible.
Thanks for the info though.



I need to wait until I get some of my mini's back from the Art Walk display (I was this month's featured artist with my miniatures & art-maps), plus I've been buried for almost 5 months keeping 3 editors happy with writing projects & 4 writers wanting maps. I'm twitching, LOL!
Skal,
Sir Sven, von, zu, und auf Luger KSO, KSH

I'm just being curious now, but, if you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living that you have to put up with 3 editors? I'm a grad student and putting up with 2 (some of the time) is trouble enough.

Sven
03-31-2009, 05:12 AM
...snip...


I need to wait until I get some of my mini's back from the Art Walk display (I was this month's featured artist with my miniatures & art-maps), plus I've been buried for almost 5 months keeping 3 editors happy with writing projects & 4 writers wanting maps. I'm twitching, LOL!

I'm just being curious now, but, if you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living that you have to put up with 3 editors? I'm a grad student and putting up with 2 (some of the time) is trouble enough.


I'm retarded oops, I mean retired due to being disabled by an attempt on my life & having 1000lbs of Green-bar paper dropped on my head at work. It makes the computer work very difficult and always painful - I used to be a CIO. Now I muddle through. However, I've been a historical miniature gamer since 1958 & got into RPG's when D&D was called "Chainmail" & still have an original set. I got to know Greg & Steve back in the late 60's/early 70's and eventually became involved in playtesting & minor contributing to the writing of "Runequest" & other great games. I also have written fiction under a name that I don't give out (even Greg doesn't know) & helped do research for various writing friends and military journals. These experiences gave me a sideline of writing games, scenarios, & the like. So currently, I'm working on Polemos Mythic Armies (fantasy rules for Baccus 6mm miniatures), Wehrmacht '47 scenarios for GHQ (alternate reality for WW2 with John Fernandes), a monograph for the Chaosium (Mythic Bronze Age adventures for the BRP rules), a series of Historical scenarios for the American Civil War with maps, & I just finished over 3 dozen art-maps.
Plus I have the "Honey-do" list from Nifhelheim, even Ratatosk is so in awe he shut-up about it & shivered in fear.
Skal,
Sven

panzer-attack
04-17-2009, 03:10 PM
The games workshop Riders of Rohan figures would be great for Saxons. They're actually suprisingly cheap too.

Sven
04-18-2009, 02:52 AM
If one is looking towards a smaller scale (say for a travel set of battle or whatever) then I can recommend
1) in 10mm Copplestone Miniatures Fantasy (Lord of the Rings) range. The Horsemaster (not-Rohan line, LOL) foot is perfect for Saxons & the mounted and the "City Guard" (not-Gondor, LOL) miniatures are wonderful for British. They have Rangers for miscellaneous villains, etc.
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=FAN
2) Baccus 6mm Ancients. They make Germanics, Late period Romans, Sarmations, etc for a historical flavor and a War of the Roses rangefor a classic Romance look.
https://www.baccus6mm.com/ look under products for either War of the Roses or Ancients.
Skal,
Sven