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Greylond
09-12-2011, 11:32 PM
Hello everyone! I used to play Pendragon years ago(3rd Edition), after seeing 5th, I love it.

Let me qualify the following questions. I understand it is all optional and depends on the GM. I'm looking for a standard definition, i.e. what is the system designed answer.

A question about the Book of the Manor though, By the definition of personnel and buildings in BotM, what makes up a "Standard Manor?" Such as, if I make up a brand new PK and he has his "Standard Manor" (as in one of the Standard ones in the main book), what exactly is that in terms of the BotM? Such as on Page 9 it under "Personnel Data" it says that the Manorial Officers are already figured into the Manor Expenses but are just listed for comparison. So, how many and what Manorial Officers are already included? I ask because what if a PK wants to add something, how do you know if you already have it?

Also, on buildings, obviously a Standard Manor has a Village and a Manor Hall(of some sort) but what exactly? Is the Standard PK Manor just a "Simple Hall, Wood" and thus a PK's next step of improvement would be a "Simple Hall, Stone" or does it already start with a Stone one? What else does the PK start with?

Anything else? Is there an example of a PK Starting "Standard Salisbury Manor" converted to BotM definitions? Or did I just miss it?

Undead Trout
09-12-2011, 11:59 PM
You missed it. On p. 5 of the original BOTM (and the second edition has the same text, just rearranged slightly), you'll find:


The Standard Manor
Logres, a land rich in rivers and alluvial valleys, is mostly populated with standard manors. The standard manor typically provides £6 of income, and has a hall, a village with 500 commoners, a small church, a mill and communal bakery. It is surrounded by plowed fields, meadows (used for hay), pastures (used for grazing), and wastes (land not used for other purposes). It also includes a herd of about 20 horses and a pack of dogs for the use of the knight and his family, cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens, geese and other animals, some owned by the manor, and many more owned by the peasants

Greylond
09-13-2011, 12:22 AM
Nah, I saw that. Just wondering about a couple of things;

1) I'm assuming the Hall is a Simple Hall, Wooden

2) And how many/what Manorial Officers? Again, I'm assuming a Steward but is there a Bailiff and Reeve? It seems that there is a Priest and Wise Women, anyone else?

Greg Stafford
09-13-2011, 01:00 AM
Nah, I saw that. Just wondering about a couple of things;

1) I'm assuming the Hall is a Simple Hall, Wooden

Yes


2) And how many/what Manorial Officers? Again, I'm assuming a Steward

No.


but is there a Bailiff and Reeve?

yes, see page 9
They are not important, they are just peasants


It seems that there is a Priest and Wise Women, anyone else?

see pages 8-15

Greylond
09-13-2011, 02:00 AM
Ok, thanks a lot for the answer! Hmmm... gotta go back and re-read the whole book.... (I usually read a book at least 3 times to digest it before I play...)

Btw, Mr. Stafford. Pendragon is a great game, first played it in 1986 and immediately loved it.