If a character loses Honor for something that he did not do, and later proves that he did not do it, all of the Honor lost is immediately returned, plus a couple of points more for the trouble he went through to prove it

What would be examples of losing honor for something you didn't do?

As a follow up. Would you really lose honor for being falsely accused?

What would be examples of losing honor for something you didn't do?

A false accusation
which is needed true at first
but you go out and prove it otherwise


As a follow up. Would you really lose honor for being falsely accused?

not just accused, but if "proved"
or even if "proved true for the court"

Imagine someone accuses you of some terrible deed. You deny it, and demand they prove it. They suggest a trial by combat, you accept and then lose.
The accusation is now proved true, and you lose honour.

That's just one way it could happen.

Another could be, say, Merlin, or the Queen, or some other indisputable source says you have done something. You suffer the honour loss, and have to prove your name.

At some point later, you prove your innocence and get the glory back.

I'm a little wary about giving extra points on top, and here's why.

Sir Honourable has 18 glory, is proved guilty of some heinous deed, and rops to 8 glory.

Over the next few years, he acts honourable as ever, and gets a few experienbce checkes, and improves his honour to 12. He then proves his innocence, and gets his 10 honour back. But that takes it to 22... And that's before adding a point or two for the inconvenience.

Losing honour is an opportunity. You get the advantage of easy experience checks, and so should take advantage of that to increase your honour. Then when you get it back, you are better off than before.

Imagine someone accuses you of some terrible deed. You deny it, and demand they prove it. They suggest a trial by combat, you accept and then lose.
The accusation is now proved true, and you lose honour.

That's just one way it could happen.

Another could be, say, Merlin, or the Queen, or some other indisputable source says you have done something. You suffer the honour loss, and have to prove your name.

At some point later, you prove your innocence and get the glory back.

I'm a little wary about giving extra points on top, and here's why.

Sir Honourable has 18 glory, is proved guilty of some heinous deed, and rops to 8 glory.

Over the next few years, he acts honourable as ever, and gets a few experienbce checkes, and improves his honour to 12. He then proves his innocence, and gets his 10 honour back. But that takes it to 22... And that's before adding a point or two for the inconvenience.

Losing honour is an opportunity. You get the advantage of easy experience checks, and so should take advantage of that to increase your honour. Then when you get it back, you are better off than before.


I think you probably should be better off than before. All the hard work in rebuilding your name and then proving your original innocence should be rewarded by a little more than restoring the previous status quo. I do see your concern at the potential for players gaming checks with the lower value but I'm not sure if it will be a big problem.