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Sir Pramalot
02-04-2012, 04:00 PM
I have a high Lust (19) Pagan knight whose player makes a point of having sex with almost anything that moves, 6 women so far this year - two maids at court, 3 peasant girls at different manors and most recently a rather ugly looking courtesan at a county fair. He's had the pox twice btw...

He asked me if I would consider a glory award for each of his "conquests" equal to the APP of the lady. A reasonable suggestion or overkill?

Morien
02-04-2012, 05:17 PM
Overkill, in my opinion. He already gets Glory for a high Trait (assuming you are doing that), so giving him more Glory for bedding servants, peasants and prostitutes... Why on earth for? That is not Glorious, in my book. Now it might be different if he 'takes one for the team' and beds the hideous crone, but would he like to brag about that? :P

Instead, encourage him to use his presumably high Flirting to entertain ladies at court and making them blush. I consider Flirting to be a social skill, so you are able to use it to flatter ladies without necessarely trying to bed them. And successful use of skill is worthy of Glory ('That Sir X is so charming and gallant...' the ladies sigh.).

Skarpskytten
02-04-2012, 05:19 PM
Overkill, and not Glorious.

Sex with non-noble women are easy and expected. Sex with noblewomen sure are dangerous (there is always a father, husband or brother) but hardly the thing that makes a knight a hero.

Romance is of course, a worthy knightly pursuit, something a true hero would engage in.

DarrenHill
02-04-2012, 05:26 PM
Overkill, IMO, judging by the examples. Not everything knights can do is glorious.

Also bear in mind, getting glory for these things means he is talking about it. Even maids at court are often related to someone noble., They may have marriage aspirations that would be scuppered by such gossip, or knightly relatives that will not be happy to hear about the maid being ravished (clearly she wasn't willing in their minds) or reputation being tarnished.

Now, there are situations where this kind of thing can be worth glory. But the way it is done is waht matetrs - that's what makes it glory. If you recite a poem or sing in her honour, climb a tower to give her a rose (or get past her guardian), and so on - it might be glorious.

If it's done according to the romance rules, then a glory award of some size is worth it - again, assuming it becomes well known. But the big caveat with all of this: if it happens before Romance is established (and even after, if he is bragging about consummating the relationship), the woman's reputation is ruined, and the knight will have her family hating and hunting him.

Greg Stafford
02-04-2012, 07:48 PM
Lust is not Glorious
no matter how much fun it is

KAP is a game of actions and consequences, remember
Since the knights often traveled the same roads, they often returned to the courts where they'd notched their poles. Aristocratic divide notwithstanding (since these women are all commons), it is fascinating to watch knights meet one after another of their previous romps:

scrubbing floors with her baby on her back
on the roadside with her sick kid, begging
in a whorehouse
"I'm OK, but I left our son out on Wolf Hill over there."
a powerful courtesan with a grudge against the man her put her on this track
at court with the baby but every woman, noble and common, hates him

An entertaining PK solution to this is to take responsibility for all these unwed mothers, either paying £1 per year each, or my favorite, sending them all to his manor.

Maybe lust isn't so much fun after ::)

Sir Pramalot
02-07-2012, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the input. TBH the second I sent the original post I thought it made no sense to gain Glory for peasants etc,.

I've told my PK that he need not change his approach but there's no Glory for his "conquests".

krijger
02-07-2012, 07:50 PM
An entertaining PK solution to this is to take responsibility for all these unwed mothers, either paying £1 per year each, or my favorite, sending them all to his manor.

How much would you have to pay if they lived at your manor?

fg,
Thijs

Greg Stafford
02-07-2012, 11:09 PM
An entertaining PK solution to this is to take responsibility for all these unwed mothers, either paying £1 per year each, or my favorite, sending them all to his manor.

How much would you have to pay if they lived at your manor?

In my campaign, "hell to pay" for all those women under one roof :D
and also £1 per mom and kid

Arkat
02-08-2012, 08:49 AM
This being a medieval setting, remarrying shouldn't be all that uncommon. There will probably be several widowers on your manors at any one time and promising a substantial gift (3-5£) and your gratitude will probably convince a peasant that marrying the woman and foster her child would be a good idea. At least she'll have a decent life. And if you like you could recognize the child later.

Doing this once shouldn't be to difficult. Doing it several times might be asking for trouble (and intrigues) though.

Edit: It might give you a check to Arbitrary, but it could save you a lot of money.

doorknobdeity
02-08-2012, 08:53 AM
I recall Chaucer being very snippy about friars, like the one who was very attentive about getting certain young ladies nice dowries very quickly. Your knight could learn from his generosity! Such a nice guy, making certain young ladies get dowries rich enough to attract good husbands very quickly. Just be sure to consummate the marriage within the month.