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Nicolas
03-21-2012, 06:46 PM
Hi,

i dicovered this knight for the first time in "Boy King". Now, i know he appears in Malory (4, IV) as one of the fourth old knight chosen after Battle of Humber.

But what about this knight ?

I think he don't appear more on GPC than in Malory, but did Greg use him on an another publication ?

Thanks

Greg Stafford
03-21-2012, 08:55 PM
i dicovered this knight for the first time in "Boy King". Now, i know he appears in Malory (4, IV) as one of the fourth old knight chosen after Battle of Humber.

But what about this knight ?

I think he don't appear more on GPC than in Malory, but did Greg use him on an another publication ?


Not yet, but you can be sure he will appear in the Book of Uther
Thanks!

Nicolas
03-21-2012, 10:07 PM
Thanks Greg

Greg Stafford
03-22-2012, 06:48 PM
My Pleasure

And as an arbitrary reward to those who find cool stuff I use
here is a bit more about some personalities in the Book of UTHER

Most likely to be Met
Sir Moneval, Third Constable
Glory
Courtesy
Sir Moneval is “the horse guy,” a gregarious knight who loves horses, knows everything about them, and is likely to be the man to see to get a horse at Uther’s court.
Sir Yvo, Bearer of the Pendragon Banner
Glory 42, 853
Courtesy 16, Loyalty 24, Spear Expertise 27, Sword 27, damage 3d6
Only three men living may touch the ancient banner of the Pendragon: King Uther, his son Madoc, and Sir Yvo of Lower Uppham (Hampshire). Despite the great honors heaped upon him by king and others, he is a simple, loyal guy who likes being with the other knights.
Sir Gracian, Watch Commander
Glory
Courtesy
Three watch commanders share responsibilities for checking the guards each day and night. He’s a good source for anything that he has seen, and unless he’s been told NOT to say something, he probably will. But if he didn’t see it, he shrugs, and might go so far to say, “I didn’t see anything.”
Sir Felot, “friendly Felot”
Glory
Courtesy
This young and eager knight is happy to associate with anyone more experienced than him (which is almost anyone). He will blab out anything he has heard about anything that might please the knight who is asking.
Sir Felix, “Sir Happy Happy”
Glory 4300
Courtesy 10, Indulgent 18
Sir Selices is the inevitable happy drunk of the hall. Never hysterical or falling down, he is always ready to talk, although half of what he says is bollocks.
Melion, esq., Chief of Stables
Glory
Courtesy
He’s the guy who is always at the royal stable, and who will lend a horse, take a horse in, or otherwise be the guy you recognize. He doesn’t talk much, except about the horses.

Nicolas
03-22-2012, 09:58 PM
Great !



Sir Yvo, Bearer of the Pendragon Banner
Glory 42, 853
Courtesy 16, Loyalty 24, Spear Expertise 27, Sword 27, damage 3d6


Ouch !

Greg, where do you find characters's name ? I overread the french GPC (1st part) and it's sometimes difficult to translate characters's name. (for exemple, we say Gauvain not Gawaine --> this one is easy, but it's more difficult with Brandegoris or Hervis(e) which is sometime nammed Hervieu, Hervisse) and having source simplifies that.

About Galagers (Galagars), the Book of Uther will describe characters in Uther's period ? None about their lifes after Uther's death ?

Is Felot the same wich is meet by Tor during Arthur's wedding ?

Greg Stafford
03-23-2012, 01:43 AM
Great !


Sir Yvo, Bearer of the Pendragon Banner
Glory 42, 853
Courtesy 16, Loyalty 24, Spear Expertise 27, Sword 27, damage 3d6

Ouch !

3d6 you mean, eh? Those old guys..
But he bears the banner two-handed, and he only fights defensively, always riding within reach of the man to whom he has devoted his entire life: King Uther.


Greg, where do you find characters's name ?

Well, I was reading The Hundred and Hundred Rolls and on page 283 is listed the lord and lady of Calne Hundred in 1274
"Millicent and Yvo La Zuche"
with my note that says: "random name generator?"
so I wanted to preserve the memory
I thought of using a known knight but didn't want to risk him reappearing later in some obscure passage I am unfamiliar with :)
In my game, blessed Sir Yvo (everyone's favorite at our court) isn't expected to live out the Anarchy,
but stands by in case needed as that old wise guy in the woods


I overread the french GPC (1st part) and it's sometimes difficult to translate characters's name. (for exemple, we say Gauvain not Gawaine --> this one is easy, but it's more difficult with Brandegoris or Hervis(e) which is sometime nammed Hervieu, Hervisse) and having source simplifies that.

I know what you mean. When Caball sent me a list of old-time knights I was all excited over one, who turns out to be Sir Jordans
I have some precious books that list the variants
An Index of Proper Names in French Arthurian Verse Romances
An Index of Proper Names in French Arthurian Prose Romances
An Index of the Arthurian Names in Middle English
They are very useful but not always for telling what spelling is who
which is in fact exactly how Gaheris and Gareth kinda sloughed off from Gawaine in the literature of non-standardized hand written manuscripts


About Galagers (Galagars), the Book of Uther will describe characters in Uther's period ? None about their lifes after Uther's death ?

It will have an Appendix to note which of these characters are Core (predetermined by literature), Key (important in GPC) and entirely open for gamemaster fun.


Is Felot the same which is meet by Tor during Arthur's wedding ?
I think so
Maybe Cabell can remind me?
He did this bit of research for me, may his sword never fail!

Taliesin
03-23-2012, 09:56 PM
It will have an Appendix to note which of these characters are Core (predetermined by literature), Key (important in GPC) and entirely open for gamemaster fun.

You might consider a little visual icon that you could put right on the description with the name to indicate this status, rather than having to have a separate appendix. Less digging for harried Gamemasters. I'm always for being less harry! then again you could do both, and have the index be more of a list that chunks them together in each of the three categories.

The other thing we're gonna need is a pronunciation guide. I know I, for one, am probably butchering more than a few of these ancient names. They deserve better! We should start one on a Google doc or something, so multiple people can easily add and edit.


T.

Greg Stafford
03-24-2012, 09:48 PM
The other thing we're gonna need is a pronunciation guide. I know I, for one, am probably butchering more than a few of these ancient names. They deserve better! We should start one on a Google doc or something, so multiple people can easily add and edit.

Yes, please do not depend on me for pronunciation
Years ago I GM'd for my son and friends, and one of them was a kid from Lebanon. French is a Lebanese language, and every time I'd pronounce something he'd make this little wince. After a while I'd stop and ask him to read the word for us, whereupon I'd repeat it badly and we'd all have a laugh and then go on.
But heck, even many French people feel the French orthography needs revision, so I do not feel bad.
And since I am not doing it, let me add to the list of desires!
I suggest that only French can contribute to it, and that it have an audio component so we can hear it.
:)

Taliesin
03-25-2012, 05:19 AM
I suggest that only French can contribute to it, and that it have an audio component so we can hear it.

Well, we need the Welsh, too! It's amusing to see all these Cymric manors with Saxon names.


T.

Leodegrance
08-01-2013, 01:18 AM
Sir Yvo, Bearer of the Pendragon Banner
Glory 42,853, Courtesy 16, Loyalty 24, Spear Expertise 27, Sword 27, damage 3d6
Only three men living may touch the ancient banner of the Pendragon: King Uther, his son Madoc, and Sir Yvo of Lower Uppham (Hampshire). Despite the great honors heaped upon him by king and others, he is a simple, loyal guy who likes being with the other knights.

Was wondering if this character has any fictional tales about him, he seems a little to good, as he has far more glory than even King Uther!

Greg Stafford
08-09-2013, 02:00 AM
Sir Yvo, Bearer of the Pendragon Banner
Glory 42,853, Courtesy 16, Loyalty 24, Spear Expertise 27, Sword 27, damage 3d6
Only three men living may touch the ancient banner of the Pendragon: King Uther, his son Madoc, and Sir Yvo of Lower Uppham (Hampshire). Despite the great honors heaped upon him by king and others, he is a simple, loyal guy who likes being with the other knights.

Was wondering if this character has any fictional tales about him,


No
He is actually and NPC from one of my campaigns

he seems a little to good, as he has far more glory than even King Uther!

That is why he may bear the Pendragon Banner