Looking at this great map from Sir Pramalot has inspired some new questions.



Salisbury Colour Map (Detail) - HERE (http://gspendragon.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/book-of-maps/) - link to Thijs's site.

1.) I assume the brown-bordered areas shows the banneret's holdings. Why are some of them shaded, and some not? Amesbury and Upavon for example—no shading.

2.) Are all the manors within these borders considered to be the banneret's vassals that compose his eschille? So Winterslow would have Bulford, Normanton, Wilsford and Lake with him on the battlefield? If this is true, where do the other 6 knights (on average) come from? Are they household knights? Knight mercenaries?

3.) Are all the manors out in the open area vassals of the Earl? I see that's where all the PK manors are located—except, curiously, for Broughton. This is the only manor under the control of another banneret.

4.) If the first part of #2 is true, then why do PK knight fight under Sir Elad, in the opening years of the campaign? Wouldn't they be mentored, and commanded by their own bannerets? I understand that Elad is the Marshal in the campaign, but surely all squires don't pass through Castle Vagon on their road to knighthood...

I understand the feudal system well enough and the way the army organizes, per the BoB. What I'm interested in is—when one considers geography, distance and logistics—how are knights assigned to certain units, and who assigns them? Would a knight from Broughton and a knight from Winterbourne Stoke end up in the same eschille? Or would Broughton typically be mustered under DuPlain along with Buckholt, and the three Wallops?

I'm really interested in the nut and bolts of this.


Thanks,


T.

this is how I interpreted the map:

1) I assumed all manors in the shaded areas are part of the banneret's domain. the area around Upavon should be shaded, I think, but are as I see it part of Earl Rodericks own. I think these are the manors that are part of Lady Jenna's dowry. Amesbury is not really part of Salisbury, but is a fief of the church. (see p56 5th ed.)

2) I assume that these are knights from other manors, like the player manors, or household knights. Especially the castles have household knights, imho. It could also be mercenaries. In battle you want to be part of a group, so joining one is usually a wise choice.

3) I assumed that all manors in the open are direct vassals of Earl Roderick. In my campaign I had no knight come from this manor, so I placed it under the control of a banneret. I would have assumed it was not part of the bannerety if it was controlled by a player.

4) As I assumed they are direct vassals of Roderick, they have no banneret of their own. Assigning them to Elad is a nice player hook to keep the group together.

During battle relationship is I think more important that geography. So loyalty or family ties determine these things, rather than geography. So Broughton and Winterborne Stoke could end up together in an eschille.

At the risk of offending my loyal men who have done creative work on Salisbury,
I need to declare that the situation in Salisbury as outlined is not much like the Salisbury I am outlining in WARLORDS.
For starters, bannerets don't exist in Uther's time.
I also find far too much subinfeudation in the map

Please understand, your game is YOUR GAME and I have absolutely no interest in squelching creativity--I only want to direct it and shape it
If someone wants to have the King of London be a npc, go for it!
It is just that I want to make the products that have my name on it are directing things in the right direction.
I want official publications to be as correct as possible