How many households are needed to maintain a knight?
If I look at the Domesday data, a lot of 'manors' only have have like 5-10 families..

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How many households are needed to maintain a knight?
If I look at the Domesday data, a lot of 'manors' only have have like 5-10 families..

Here's one of the differences between KAP and history

First of all, my reply is based on Maitland
Domesday Book and Beyond, Three Essays
First edition 1897 and STILL the foundational work on the Domesday
He is one of those incredible Victorian geniuses whose work still stands

Maitland shows that "manor" actually means "any land held directly from the king."
and also that anyone who holds any land from the king is a baron

Many manors in Domesday are held by individuals for things like serving as "messenger for the king at his own expense and own horse for two months," "for five sesters of honey a year," and other petty things. They hold little manors
Sometimes a manor includes several villages or towns,
So a manor has no specific value in Domesday

But that is not all
the manors in D have to be looked at as a collective for a landholder within an area
more like a basket full of trinkets than a shop display

Also
D does not include any of the Inlands, I think it is called
Those are the lands held by greater barons apparently (unsure here) exempt from the geld


The lands of William himself are mentioned in it, as far as I can see.


Finally
KAP defines its terms at the beginning of itself, specifically because of this vocabulary problem
ie, a manor is a holding worth L6, sufficient to uphold a knight

So is any D-manor a £6 KAP-manor?

Yes, if you wish. My knowledge of medieval landholding was not as advanced as it is now
When I chose manors for player knights I did it because I thought the names were interesting
But I have since discovered that they are all very different in Value
some being much less than a knight's fee

I don't care, myself
I do not recommend trying to match KAP manors with Domesday
They simply do not match up neatly
and the effort to do so is monumental

I'm simply mining Domesday and the 17th century maps (such as Speed) for names and relative locations of manors.

I made a feeble attempt to collate things and it will not work out. So I'm just going to tweak it to fit what will fit the campaign, generate enough income (or nearly enough) to support the nobility and abbeys and then go from there.

And since I like a "clockwork" campaign setting where the world is changing regardless of where the knights are, (which the GPC narrative supports), my manor and town list varies over roughly four periods. Some will fade out and be abandoned while new ones arise and many grow and bloom under Arthur's care of Logres.