oaktree
04-07-2012, 02:05 PM
Wanted to run an idea past the forum before trying to implement it.
Background:
I'm starting a campaign that will center out of the county of Dorset rather than Salisbury. Dorset is a traditionalist county; Roman Christian, the earl uses the title of "praetor" and refers to knights as "equites", etc. Plus a greater familiarity and ease with towns. So perhaps a bit more political than your usual Cymri.
Succession Rules:
Salic Succession: Senior surviving male inherits everything. You cannot trace succession through the female line at any time.
(Frankish I think.)
Semi-Salic Succession: Senior surviving male inherits. If no surviving males than a female line can be used to get a male heir.
(I think this is the KAP default since there are heiresses with lands.)
Roman Succession: I think this roughly falls Semi-Salic. But an item I did note was that marriage outside patrician lines could affect inheritance.
Also, Roman Christian vs British Christian leanings are a potential factor, but I don't think I will need to tap this.
--- OK, on to the planned situation in Dorset ---
485 - Praetor C is the current ruler of Dorset. Middle-aged, but married to a younger wife. No surviving legitimate children, but has illegitimate sons about, including a few grown ones in the lower nobility. A lively gentleman who likes hunting and entertainment.
Praetor C has two surviving younger siblings. His sister married the Lord of Rennes in Brittany and her son is the current lord there. His younger brother is a banneret in the county, but has fallen in and out of favor. He will leave for a few years in 486, and be recalled in 489. A more dour and military man than his older brother.
Praetor C will fall ill and die in 491. After some agitation by one of the illegitimate sons to inherit the majority of the bannerets will support the younger brother inheriting and the county will now have Praetor L.
Praetor L has two daughters from his first marriage. They are currently married off to bannerets in other cities in Logres. Their mother was a commoner though, which will be brought up. Praetor L has remarried since then, but currently has no surviving children from that marriage.
495 rolls around and the apple cart gets upset at battle and events around St Albans.
Praetor L dies.
Most of the bannerets of the county are killed as well. This opens things up for the PKs to be influential like in the Salisbury situation.
Winter Court brings things to a head - who should inherit the title of Praetor. Some candidates immediately offer themselves:
The Lord or Rennes claims the title - closest male descendent; nephew of the previous two Praetors. But he is a foreigner to Dorset.
The eldest illegitimate son of Praetor C claims the title. (He's an experienced military noble - thus part of his claim is expediency.)
The eldest daughter of Praetor L - but she has recently been widowed due to St Albans killing her husband. She does have the support of an influential banneret who survived St Albans.
So there are three potential factions for the PKs to potentially follow.
And, in early 496, a complication ensues when the wife of Praetor L belatedly gives birth to a baby son. (Which the other factions will denounce as not being legitimate of course.)
So, a fourth faction crops up as well.
Nothing is set beyond that point. If the PKs have interest in playing the situation I can see any of the factions potentially winning out. If the PKs don't play Earl-maker I will have events take a certain course and the situation will shake out on its own, and just about everyone will get the title for a period of time. ;D
(And all this is loosely based on a historical succession.)
Background:
I'm starting a campaign that will center out of the county of Dorset rather than Salisbury. Dorset is a traditionalist county; Roman Christian, the earl uses the title of "praetor" and refers to knights as "equites", etc. Plus a greater familiarity and ease with towns. So perhaps a bit more political than your usual Cymri.
Succession Rules:
Salic Succession: Senior surviving male inherits everything. You cannot trace succession through the female line at any time.
(Frankish I think.)
Semi-Salic Succession: Senior surviving male inherits. If no surviving males than a female line can be used to get a male heir.
(I think this is the KAP default since there are heiresses with lands.)
Roman Succession: I think this roughly falls Semi-Salic. But an item I did note was that marriage outside patrician lines could affect inheritance.
Also, Roman Christian vs British Christian leanings are a potential factor, but I don't think I will need to tap this.
--- OK, on to the planned situation in Dorset ---
485 - Praetor C is the current ruler of Dorset. Middle-aged, but married to a younger wife. No surviving legitimate children, but has illegitimate sons about, including a few grown ones in the lower nobility. A lively gentleman who likes hunting and entertainment.
Praetor C has two surviving younger siblings. His sister married the Lord of Rennes in Brittany and her son is the current lord there. His younger brother is a banneret in the county, but has fallen in and out of favor. He will leave for a few years in 486, and be recalled in 489. A more dour and military man than his older brother.
Praetor C will fall ill and die in 491. After some agitation by one of the illegitimate sons to inherit the majority of the bannerets will support the younger brother inheriting and the county will now have Praetor L.
Praetor L has two daughters from his first marriage. They are currently married off to bannerets in other cities in Logres. Their mother was a commoner though, which will be brought up. Praetor L has remarried since then, but currently has no surviving children from that marriage.
495 rolls around and the apple cart gets upset at battle and events around St Albans.
Praetor L dies.
Most of the bannerets of the county are killed as well. This opens things up for the PKs to be influential like in the Salisbury situation.
Winter Court brings things to a head - who should inherit the title of Praetor. Some candidates immediately offer themselves:
The Lord or Rennes claims the title - closest male descendent; nephew of the previous two Praetors. But he is a foreigner to Dorset.
The eldest illegitimate son of Praetor C claims the title. (He's an experienced military noble - thus part of his claim is expediency.)
The eldest daughter of Praetor L - but she has recently been widowed due to St Albans killing her husband. She does have the support of an influential banneret who survived St Albans.
So there are three potential factions for the PKs to potentially follow.
And, in early 496, a complication ensues when the wife of Praetor L belatedly gives birth to a baby son. (Which the other factions will denounce as not being legitimate of course.)
So, a fourth faction crops up as well.
Nothing is set beyond that point. If the PKs have interest in playing the situation I can see any of the factions potentially winning out. If the PKs don't play Earl-maker I will have events take a certain course and the situation will shake out on its own, and just about everyone will get the title for a period of time. ;D
(And all this is loosely based on a historical succession.)