Do you usually charge knights to have their broken weapons replaced or just assume they get them for free from the local blacksmith?
It's a small point, but I could imagine weapon costs building up fairly high if you're breaking them regularly.

I do require players to pay to replace broken weapons. I don't warry about lances, but everything else has to be paid for.

They are not "Free", but the costs of average quality weapons are usually rolled into the standard Knight's yearly maintenance. Weapons of a better quality do cost though.
Sven

Do you usually charge knights to have their broken weapons replaced or just assume they get them for free from the local blacksmith?
It's a small point, but I could imagine weapon costs building up fairly high if you're breaking them regularly.


For me, it is a question of how money is handled in the campaign. Fixing weapons and paying for new clothing is at my "nickle and dime" level and interesting for poor knights who are living at the edge of viability. But that level of play is not interesting to me when a knight has a regular income, whether as a household or vassal knight. Just as with horse survival rolls, those for repaired armor and weapons become part of normal maintenance.

Special or unique things might still be addressed, even at the maintenance level. If someone has gotten an Araby Courser or destrier then Horse Survival is done, and likewise if someone wanted to make a double-bladed sword with a sword catcher guard, with an ivory hilt holding a sliver of bone from Saint Alban.

--Greg

Hi,
reviving topic, sorry.
According Book of Manor, as I understand, you get your chargers replaced for free. Which means that for 'default' knights horse survival rolls are not needed.
Now cost of living for standard maintenance is 2L for knight, 2L for horses and 2L for wife. (6L)
[If no wife, then 2L is saved, but often 1L is then spend on steward, but not obligatory].
Now for a Rich knight this becomes logically: 3L for knight, 3L for horses and 3L for wife. (9L) And for superlative rich knight: 4L for knight, 4L for horses and 4L for wife. (12L)
So if a superlative knight has no wife, he can save himself 4L.
So if a superlative knight decides he doesnt need those improved horse survival rates (since he rides chargers), he can just spend 2L on his horse instead of 4L, which means that with just spending 6L (4L for himself and 2L for horses, and hiring no steward, and having now wife) you can be a superlative rich knight?

Is this correct reasoning?

fg,
Thijs

reviving topic, sorry.

No problem for me.


According Book of Manor, as I understand, you get your chargers replaced for free. Which means that for 'default' knights horse survival rolls are not needed.


Correct.



Now cost of living for standard maintenance is 2L for knight, 2L for horses and 2L for wife. (6L)
[If no wife, then 2L is saved, but often 1L is then spend on steward, but not obligatory].


And if you are smart, you spend the other L on a mistress, to have a house full of bastards if your main legit character is knocked off.



Now for a Rich knight this becomes logically: 3L for knight, 3L for horses and 3L for wife. (9L) And for superlative rich knight: 4L for knight, 4L for horses and 4L for wife. (12L)
So if a superlative knight has no wife, he can save himself 4L.


Only where "save" means spend it in some other manner. Now. Otherwise he is looking like a cheapie, not a superlative at all.



So if a superlative knight decides he doesn't need those improved horse survival rates (since he rides chargers), he can just spend 2L on his horse instead of 4L,


No. The 4 libra are to horse his retinue.



which means that with just spending 6L (4L for himself and 2L for horses, and hiring no steward, and having now wife) you can be a superlative rich knight?

Is this correct reasoning?



No. It is correct math, but the reasoning is modern. This kind of nickle and dime stuff is beneath a knight. You get the money to be superlative, you give it to the people that make you superlative and they gussy everything up, hire some extra grooms, buy cloth for new clothes.
No wife? Have a party.
Hire a courtesan to bear your bastards instead of a mere concubine.

--Greg

No wife? Have a party.
Hire a courtesan to bear your bastards instead of a mere concubine.

Problem is my temperate/chaste etc knight who doesnt want concubines, have parties, expensive horses or anything costly but to save money to build his own church (but wants to be a superlative rich knight because of the higher knight value he would be for his liege).
Also all my other players (despite being Pagans!) dont want bastards as it might upset their amors (which are all rich heiresses they intend to marry).

fg,
Thijs

No wife? Have a party.
Hire a courtesan to bear your bastards instead of a mere concubine.

Problem is my temperate/chaste etc knight who doesn't want concubines, have parties, expensive horses or anything costly but to save money


Save? Where's he save it? What is he saving?

Hire some monks to pray for his soul, pay alms to the poor, contribute to help that leper colony or those hungry abbeys. All good humble ways to get Glory.



to build his own church (but wants to be a superlative rich knight

That is a delightful personality conflict.



because of the higher knight value he would be for his liege).


That won't be a problem soon, since Knight Value doesn't exist in the Book of Battle.



Also all my other players (despite being Pagans!) don't want bastards as it might upset their amors (which are all rich heiresses they intend to marry).


They have money and they aren't spending it on their amors! What in the name of the God of Love are they thinking!!!

;)
--Greg