Can anyone fill me in on the cause of this rivalry? I seem to remember reading something about it at some point, but now I can't find that information. Maybe point me to the right book and passage? I want to start exploiting this tension, but don't really understand what's behind it all...

Thanks,


T.

Not with Silchester but with Levcomagus.

Pendragon 5th Ed., page 55, the write-up of "Your Home", Salisbury, and Earl Roderick in particular.

"... He [Earl Roderick] is noted for his deadly feud with Sir Blains, the Steward of Levcomagus, for whom he holds a deep grudge (Mistrust +6) because they were both suitors of Lady Ellen many years ago."

Not with Silchester but with Levcomagus.

Pendragon 5th Ed., page 55, the write-up of "Your Home", Salisbury, and Earl Roderick in particular.

"... He [Earl Roderick] is noted for his deadly feud with Sir Blains, the Steward of Levcomagus, for whom he holds a deep grudge (Mistrust +6) because they were both suitors of Lady Ellen many years ago."


As all Salisbury knights start with a directed trait of Suspicious of Silchester I've always assumed that this feud had a wider effect. However you could have highlighted an error here as the text quite clearly says "Mistrust". Which one is correct? Both? If so, what started the blanket suspicion of Silchester?

EDIT - from the errata
Page 46 (year 440 of the family history)
It says it is possible to gain a Passion of Mistrust (Silchester Knights). This should be a Directed Trait of Suspicious (Silchester Knights)?

That being the case it would appear the feud is responsible for souring relations with all of Silchester, not just Levcomagus.

Any chance it's some sort of generic Cymric-Roman thing writ large? Silchester has a Roman nobility ruling over non-Romans. One of the few places (other than Dorset) with a non-city specific Roman nobility.

And in the older editions Romans carried a default Suspicious (Non-Romans)*. Which I presume would not help relations.

*-(And I'm glad to see this missing from the Book of Lords and Ladies.)

Besides, when the Saxons come raiding into Salisbury from points other than Hampshire aren't they passing through Silchester to do so? :o What sort of deal is that? ???

As all Salisbury knights start with a directed trait of Suspicious of Silchester I've always assumed that this feud had a wider effect. However you could have highlighted an error here as the text quite clearly says "Mistrust". Which one is correct? Both? If so, what started the blanket suspicion of Silchester?

EDIT - from the errata
Page 46 (year 440 of the family history)
It says it is possible to gain a Passion of Mistrust (Silchester Knights). This should be a Directed Trait of Suspicious (Silchester Knights)?

That being the case it would appear the feud is responsible for souring relations with all of Silchester, not just Levcomagus.


This must come from a newer source than my 5th Ed, so I can't speak about that starting passion. However, at 440 King Constantin is murdered. Historia Regum Britanniae says it was one Pict who had entered the King's service who did the deed, but given the traits, I would imagine that it might have been (in KAP) a Silchester Knight instead? That would explain the passion, methinks.

EDIT: I find it telling that Greg omits the 'Pict' from the murder of Constantin(e), saying that it was just one of his guards, while Contans' murder is explicitly done by his bodyguard of Picts (as in HRB). Given that in the first case the passion is Mistrust Silchester Knights and in the second Hate Picts, I think my theory in above gains credence.

Thanks, guys. Morien, that's where I was headed, too. But I wondered if there was anymore detail on this assassination anywhere. Sounds like there's not.

Best,


T.

Not with Silchester but with Levcomagus.

Pendragon 5th Ed., page 55, the write-up of "Your Home", Salisbury, and Earl Roderick in particular.

"... He [Earl Roderick] is noted for his deadly feud with Sir Blains, the Steward of Levcomagus, for whom he holds a deep grudge (Mistrust +6) because they were both suitors of Lady Ellen many years ago."


As all Salisbury knights start with a directed trait of Suspicious of Silchester I've always assumed that this feud had a wider effect. However you could have highlighted an error here as the text quite clearly says "Mistrust". Which one is correct? Both? If so, what started the blanket suspicion of Silchester?

EDIT - from the errata
Page 46 (year 440 of the family history)
It says it is possible to gain a Passion of Mistrust (Silchester Knights). This should be a Directed Trait of Suspicious (Silchester Knights)?

That being the case it would appear the feud is responsible for souring relations with all of Silchester, not just Levcomagus.


The reason there is this Suspicious of Silchester Knights is because they allowed someone to be assassinated and/or actively took part. (don't have my book here with me at work).

NOW on top of that you have the feud with Levcomagus.

But even without the feud you would have the Suspicious of Silchester Knights for what happened in 440.