calliban
05-09-2012, 03:14 AM
I've been searching through the forums and yet for every answer clarifying thing, I found another that would confuse me again or contradict what was said in other posts. So, I'll try to be really clear here, which will be hard since english ins't my first language.
In KAP 5.1, there are 4 Ladies to whom players should marry if so they want. I think those 4 Ladies are just examples for the GM to make things easy in the first few games, but then, there are some new concepts that aren't really well explained in the book.
1- Demesne Manors: As far as I get, those are manors that need no knights to work properly and generate income. Is that right? So, would that be an extra £6 for the knight who marries a Lady with 1 demesne manor? It has no costs at all and all income is now available to the Knight? Or does the new Manor also have some costs that would cut a share of those £6? (simply put: demesne manor = free income?)
2- Enfeoffed Manors: I get they are manors with a Knight living on it. Is it a landed knight, or he is just temporally living in the manor and getting the income in exchange for servicing whoever sired him? Or is the Manor empty and the marrying knight is obligated to put someone on the land (a cousin maybe)? If the knight in the enfeoffed manor is single does the extra £2 of income goes to whom?
3- What kind of relationship the knights living in the enfeoffed manors of the PK's wife have with the PK? Is the PK their liege? Do the have to serve 3 months under his household? Can the PK evict those knights or chose to whom they can marry? Or do the knights answer directly to the PK's wife?
4- Can a PK knight someone and give him one of his manors? In which conditions?
5- In BoM the Income for a manor is given as: £6. Also, the cost of living for a standard knight is given as: £1 for the Knight expenses, £1 for the Squire, £2 for his horses, £1 for his wife and £1 for his children, adding exactly £6, his income. So, a standard knight has a total of £0 per year for extra stuff. I believe he can take a few d from his £1 to some travel expenses, but that is it, right? He has no extra fat to burn here, right?
6- Then in KAP it says if your spend between £9-12 in your maintenance you are living as a Rich Knight, and £15+ then you are a superlative knight. In BoM it is said a Rich knight has an extra Squire, and a Superlative has a couple of them. So, I can easily undestand there the first couple of £ are spent, but what about the rest? Do improvements in your manor counts as maintenance or are they just expenses? Does your wife also get a few extra handmaids?
My players keep me bugging with those questions. They love the book-keeping aspect of the winter phase.
Thank you in advance
In KAP 5.1, there are 4 Ladies to whom players should marry if so they want. I think those 4 Ladies are just examples for the GM to make things easy in the first few games, but then, there are some new concepts that aren't really well explained in the book.
1- Demesne Manors: As far as I get, those are manors that need no knights to work properly and generate income. Is that right? So, would that be an extra £6 for the knight who marries a Lady with 1 demesne manor? It has no costs at all and all income is now available to the Knight? Or does the new Manor also have some costs that would cut a share of those £6? (simply put: demesne manor = free income?)
2- Enfeoffed Manors: I get they are manors with a Knight living on it. Is it a landed knight, or he is just temporally living in the manor and getting the income in exchange for servicing whoever sired him? Or is the Manor empty and the marrying knight is obligated to put someone on the land (a cousin maybe)? If the knight in the enfeoffed manor is single does the extra £2 of income goes to whom?
3- What kind of relationship the knights living in the enfeoffed manors of the PK's wife have with the PK? Is the PK their liege? Do the have to serve 3 months under his household? Can the PK evict those knights or chose to whom they can marry? Or do the knights answer directly to the PK's wife?
4- Can a PK knight someone and give him one of his manors? In which conditions?
5- In BoM the Income for a manor is given as: £6. Also, the cost of living for a standard knight is given as: £1 for the Knight expenses, £1 for the Squire, £2 for his horses, £1 for his wife and £1 for his children, adding exactly £6, his income. So, a standard knight has a total of £0 per year for extra stuff. I believe he can take a few d from his £1 to some travel expenses, but that is it, right? He has no extra fat to burn here, right?
6- Then in KAP it says if your spend between £9-12 in your maintenance you are living as a Rich Knight, and £15+ then you are a superlative knight. In BoM it is said a Rich knight has an extra Squire, and a Superlative has a couple of them. So, I can easily undestand there the first couple of £ are spent, but what about the rest? Do improvements in your manor counts as maintenance or are they just expenses? Does your wife also get a few extra handmaids?
My players keep me bugging with those questions. They love the book-keeping aspect of the winter phase.
Thank you in advance