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Vedrenne
05-16-2012, 01:55 AM
From another thread http://nocturnal-media.com/forum/index.php?topic=1612.0.



<snip> Furthermore, the boar goes after the horse, so the chances are, the first round will kill the horse, the second the now unhorsed rider <endsnip>

Does anyone else run this as an Opposed Boar vs Knight roll - if the Boar wins it hits the horse, if the knight wins he hits the Boar?

Or are both rolls unopposed so that a success for both combatants ends in both hitting their respective targets simultaneously?

How would you dodge the Boar then? Horsemanship vs. Boars tusks skill to effect a Dodge/Evasion?

-Ben

Rob
05-16-2012, 02:27 AM
I would dodging as +10 for being defensive and roll horsemanship vs boar's tusks.
I usually run hunting using boars pears using lance with appropriate modifiers (+5 for charging against a non-mounted target).

Morien
05-16-2012, 12:34 PM
Well, I roll it as an opposed roll of Spear vs Tusks, with the boar winning meaning a hit on the horse. I am not sure I would give the +10 for defensive maneuvering... I checked the rulebook and it has Dodging as two unopposed rolls: one vs. DEX (or presumably horsemanship if mounted) to dodge and one for the attacker to hit. HOWEVER, any success in the part of the defender means that the attacker missed. This is actually pretty formidable strategy for people with high DEX/Horsemanship.

Greg Stafford
05-16-2012, 10:16 PM
I would just make this an opposed roll of the knight with his weapon versus the boar
where a win by the boar = he disembowels the horse

Vedrenne
05-17-2012, 12:14 AM
Cheers that is the way I was imagining it also.

Derek van Kenau
05-18-2012, 06:45 PM
Isn't there a possibility that the boar(s) will be trying to run away from the horse when chased and by that can't both attack the horse and run away on the same time? And couldn't this tactic of getting the boar to run perhaps be when the boar spear comes into use? I have only theoretical knowledge of these things and absolutely no experience from real hunting.

If sources on the net are correct (yes I admit, Wikipedia) nobles hunting boars during the middle ages would sometimes end a boar hunt by getting off the horse and then try to kill it with a dagger(!). Also, for even more sport the nobles would await the boar mating season in the autumn so that the prey would be more aggressive than usual.

This site was also interesting: http://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/

Morien
05-18-2012, 09:33 PM
Isn't there a possibility that the boar(s) will be trying to run away from the horse when chased and by that can't both attack the horse and run away on the same time? And couldn't this tactic of getting the boar to run perhaps be when the boar spear comes into use? I have only theoretical knowledge of these things and absolutely no experience from real hunting.

If sources on the net are correct (yes I admit, Wikipedia) nobles hunting boars during the middle ages would sometimes end a boar hunt by getting off the horse and then try to kill it with a dagger(!). Also, for even more sport the nobles would await the boar mating season in the autumn so that the prey would be more aggressive than usual.

This site was also interesting: http://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/


Boars are aggressive and have a reputation of even ambushing their hunters. So herding them is a risky proposition. It might work, or you might get a mass charge of the whole sounder at you.

Please note that the whole dagger-killing was AFTER the hounds have already grabbed the boar with their jaws and are holding it down. In boar-hunts, you wanted to have lots and lots of dogs to keep the boar in check, and if you only lost a couple of hounds, you counted yourself lucky. Boars are amongst the most dangerous animals a knight could hunt.

As an aside, I think the bear in Pendragon is too weedy. Granted, it is no Kodiak bear of course, but still: its claws do not punch any harder than a big man, which I think is wrong, just 3d6. I mean, a Lion does a whopping 7d6 per paw! Even a panther does 4d6. I think a bear should do at least 4d6, and I'd be OK with 5d6, too. That would go a long way into making Bears really dangerous opponents, which they are.