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Cat Rampant
06-25-2012, 12:22 PM
Whew what an eventful session. It is still Anarchy, in the long & for us very eventful year 499. Wessex Saxons are raiding the south of Salisbury, except for my PK Sir Aedgar's home of Falt where our intrepid PKs defeated a scouting party while hunting (and getting seriously banged up because damn, leathers don't do much). We hadn't paid them tribute for two years but had allied ourselves with Essex.

After much ado our marshall gets most of the muster together, as well as a party of Saxons from our Essex allies, we take out one of the raiding parties and then came upon the ruins of a manor the other raiding party had just left. The knight (my vassal!) and his wife and several children under 10 were all dead, their bodies impaled on pikes. Of course we wanted revenge. Two badly wounded PKs were sent back to Sarum with the murdered family's remains. Our marshall Sir Perrin (who has a Hate Saxons of 15) had been seething the whole time while having to play nice with the Essex contingent. Must have been too much for him....

He decides to counter-raid and leads the combined force into Wessex. We burn a few Saxon farms then arrive at a manor, which is populated by Saxons but held by a Briton who has sworn fealty to the invader. We enter his hall and he greets us. Note that he is just wearing his nice fancy tunic but no armor whatsoever. Sir Perrin chews him out for collaborating with the invader and then suddenly stabs him to death right there in the man's hall. He then has his squires light torches and forces them to light the manor house -- full of the dead man's family -- on fire and punches his youngest squire when the lad refuses to do this. Shocked by this, some of the Salisbury knights start leaving and Sir Aedgar kicks in the door and eventually leads the cowering women out after Sir Perrin promises not to harm them (and once Sir Aedgar realizes this works better when he puts his sword away). So we take the three ladies back to Salisbury as captives, and the session ended with everyone wondering how the heck things will go at court....

While confronting Sir Perrin at Sir Collaborateur's manor, Sir Aedgar noted that his marshall was still suffering from his wounds from the skirmishes with the raiders (he was at like 12 hp or so) and that they may be festering and giving him some fever that was affecting his mind. These two have been to hell and back, more or less, and are the only PKs to have made it through St. Alban's (there's another who went mad, whereabouts unknown). I'm trying to figure how to balance between my loyalty to my friend and marshall, my honor, my loyalty to Countess Ellen and my admittedly flawed human decency. Sir Aedgar is an arrogant, boastful pagan lech but anything happening to women (who he swore to serve after an umm unfortunate incident with Ygraine years ago) and children (two young sons died just before said incident) really get to him.

Man I love Pendragon...! Though this session was turning more into Game of Thrones...hey that's the anarchy for you.

Dan
06-25-2012, 08:56 PM
I presume the instant loss of Honour and Hospitality was pretty huge for Sir Perrin and fairly harsh for poor sir Aedgar.
-Murdering an unarmed Knight
-In his own Hall, having been invited in
-Kidnapping Noble Women

Ouch.

Griffon83
06-26-2012, 04:14 AM
We... arrive at a manor, which is populated by Saxons but held by a Briton who has sworn fealty to the invader. We enter his hall and he greets us. Note that he is just wearing his nice fancy tunic but no armor whatsoever. Sir Perrin chews him out for collaborating with the invader and then suddenly stabs him to death right there in the man's hall.

I don't see anything wrong with executing traitors... while you're at it though, you may want to do yourselves in for allying with Essex. :P

Maybe a +1 or +2 to your Hate (Saxons) passions after witnessing their natural brutality. As far as a hit to your Honor stats, I'd have to know just a little bit more of the details.

I've had a character kick down the door do a Giant's house, walked in with his sword drawn and murder in his eyes, then the giant says, "Welcome, I grant you the hospitality of my ghhk!!" as he was gutted with my character's sword. I was there to kill the giant. I made no attempt at concealing my character's intentions, and that isn't a breach of hospitality (despite what my GM said).

If that's what happened, then I don't see any problem with the execution of a traitor... although he may have been entitled to a trial by combat, he should have brought that up before thrusting his unarmored chest at a drawn sword.

You guys did right by taking the family back to Salisbury, no reason to leave them stranded in Saxon territory (or in a burning building for that matter).

Sorry if I'm not exactly helpful, but I've been playing Knight with a Hate (Saxons) passion of 20. ;D

simonh
06-26-2012, 08:06 AM
Hospitality is definitely going to take a significant hit, maybe as much as -5.

I'd say Honour -1 for attacking an unarmed knight and another -1 for not having any actual personal reason for doing so.

Having said that, it's the Anarchy. You can't really expect to get through it all squeaky clean and singing with the Angels. Sounds like a cracking game.

I wonder if the dead knight has any upcoming young knightly relatives.

Simon Hibbs

Cat Rampant
06-26-2012, 11:41 AM
One thing I should have noted above was that it actually wasn't a knight that Sir Perrin killed - it was a lord. Ouch. As we had crossed over into Wessex he may have been a lord of Hampshire who surrendered to keep his lands, though I'm not sure if that matters.

The ladies are apparently the lord's widow, daughter, and either his or his wife's mother. (Yes the three fates.)

We ended the session having just crossed back into Salisbury. Based on how many of Sir Aedgar's vassals are with us - he's banneret of the south - I may see about having Sir Perrin arrested and playing up the "he's bewitched or out of his head" angle. Definitely damage control at this point. I do wonder how much the fact that they're both Pagans will come into play.

As for trials by combat, Sir Perrin is probably the best swordsman in Salisbury at this point, with a skill of 27 I think. Sir Aedgar has a skill of 21 but he's bigger and does 6d6 damage. Of course the most dramatic situation is if they have to fight each other...

Cornelius
06-27-2012, 10:05 AM
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I've had a character kick down the door do a Giant's house, walked in with his sword drawn and murder in his eyes, then the giant says, "Welcome, I grant you the hospitality of my ghhk!!" as he was gutted with my character's sword. I was there to kill the giant. I made no attempt at concealing my character's intentions, and that isn't a breach of hospitality (despite what my GM said).

If that's what happened, then I don't see any problem with the execution of a traitor... although he may have been entitled to a trial by combat, he should have brought that up before thrusting his unarmored chest at a drawn sword.


There is of course a huge difference between attacking a monster aka giant and a noble knight. I would say at least a loss of honor for that and a cruel and/ or vengeful check for the killing of the knight and trying to kill his family.
Hospitality loss is needed if they asked lodging and entered as guests, and then stabbed. If you kick down the door and start killing it is called an invasion or raid. In that case you usually first start to shout at each other while you being outside and your opponent inside.