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simonh
07-07-2012, 01:51 PM
I ran Merlin's abduction of Arthur last night and when Ulfius and co turned up one of the players critical led a recognise roll, they didn't attack Ulfius and when he asked which way Merlin went they both said "that way" and pointed in a completely different direction.

The we're called as witnesses in the prosecution of some other nights that helped Merlin more actively, and actually attacked the PKs to give Merlin time to escape. Under close questioning the PKs kept to their story. Every time I have them a point of Deceitful and when they did so in court I docked a point of Honour.

Was I too lenient? It certainly solved the problem.

Simon Hibbs

Earl De La Warr
07-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Sounds fair. I only gave one of my knights points in deceitful, no roll but regret I didn't subtract honour.

Morningkiller
07-08-2012, 12:50 AM
I ran Merlin's abduction of Arthur last night and when Ulfius and co turned up one of the players critical led a recognise roll, they didn't attack Ulfius and when he asked which way Merlin went they both said "that way" and pointed in a completely different direction.

The we're called as witnesses in the prosecution of some other nights that helped Merlin more actively, and actually attacked the PKs to give Merlin time to escape. Under close questioning the PKs kept to their story. Every time I have them a point of Deceitful and when they did so in court I docked a point of Honour.

Was I too lenient? It certainly solved the problem.

Simon Hibbs


Sounds alright. Did any of them have a loyalty (Pendragon) passion? That might have taken a hit too if they were lying to Uther's face...

Dan
07-08-2012, 11:10 AM
Lying is not in and of itself dishonorable.

Lying under oath is.

Lying to your Lord probably is. (Check your oath of fealty)
Lying to your lords direct question almost certainly is. (ditto)

Uther is not the PKs Lord. He is their King, but not the man they are in fealty to, and Fealty is non-transitive. (The vassal of my vassal is not my vassal)

If the PK's are insufficiently (im)precise or equivocal in their answers, they could stand to lose a fair whack of Honour.

Taliesin
07-12-2012, 07:03 PM
Why would they lose Honor if they weren't exposed as liar's in court? If know one knows you're lying I wouldn't think you'd lose honor—until such time as that "gets out."


T.

simonh
07-19-2012, 03:42 PM
Why would they lose Honor if they weren't exposed as liar's in court? If know one knows you're lying I wouldn't think you'd lose honor—until such time as that "gets out."


Honour is a Passion, so it's as much a tally of how the characters think of themselves than what other people think of them.

Simon Hibbs