Our GPC is into 525 now and the PKs are well-landed Round Table knights who are officers and barons of King Arthur's. They have been involved in some of the great events of the time and even changed a few in not insignificant ways.

Several of these changes have had to do with the enmity that develops between two of Arthur's most powerful vassal families:

- After a rocky start the PKs became friends with King Pellinore. One even out-jousted him and he was mightily impressed.

- Arthur confided in the PKs about the prophecy of the May Babies. They, as chivalric and christian religious knights, convinced him that Merlin's mission to Lothian was wrong and he sent them after the magician and Nimue to stop the abduction. After many nasty adventures in enemy territory they were successful. One PK was caught by squire Gawaine while returning the kidnapped Baby Mordred to the castle in The City of Maidens. Gawaine thinks the PK was part of a kidnap plot and hates his guts. Mordred was never abducted and raised in France so what that means for the future I'm not sure...

- PKs volunteered ahead of Pellinore for the adventure of the kidnapped lady at Arthur's wedding feast. They opted to help the damosel (Pellinore's daughter) and saved her from being murdered by robber knights from Lothian.

- Earl Robert soon became enamoured of the welsh princess and his trusted officers engaged in some Cyrano de Bergerac shenanigans to help him in his foray into romance. The pair are happily wed now and have children.

- After Badon Hill the Pks adventured in the wasteland with Sir Lamorak and fought in the battle of the Castle of Joy, further cementing the links between the Knights of Sword Lake and the DeGales clan.

- There have been several nasty, needly encounters with Orkney knights. Agravaine nearly got into a fist fight with Sir Blaen while abusing a disguised Merlin and Sir Gaheris tried to take out one of PKs with a cheap shot in a grand melee. Gawaine's early adventures where he learns the value of chivalry have been seen as further evidence of his poor character what with all the women getting killed and all.

- After Pellinore's murder the PKs found the Isle of Fees and swore to bring justice to his murderers. One PK has fallen in love with a ghostly princess and has an Amor of 26! Another PK offered to fight for Sir Melodiam against Gawaine in the unfair trial by combat but Sir Melodiam's honour wouldn't allow it.

- Arthur has tried to stay out of this dispute and Gawaine's victory in the judicial combat has allowed him to do so.

This is becoming a fault-line running through Britain and the Degales clan are less toothless now than in the default setting with Salisbury and Sussex backing them strongly.

I'm trying to decide how many of the other great knights and landholders will line up in the feud.

I'm thinking Ywaine and Galegantis side with the Orkneys as they are cousins. Marhaus of Leinster is with Gawaine after their exploits in the triple quest but I'm still mulling over many of the rest. Geographical concerns and religion may come into it and with Gawaine being Arthur's favourite those seeking to curry favour may gravitate more to the Orkney side.

Any insights or suggestions for plotlines are most welcome.

Just a couple of ideas off the top of my head...

Later on, with De Ganis knights rising to fore with Lancelot and starting their own jostle for the limelight with the Orkneys, that would give De Gales knights an ally against a common 'enemy'.

Any enemies of Salisbury and Sussex? They'd gravitate towards the Orkneys.

Older 'eager-vassal' knights might prefer De Gales side, who, after all, fought for Arthur from the first, unlike those blasted Northerners. "Well -I- fought for Arthur at Terrabil, unlike those traitorous scum..." So perhaps look at the list of Eager Vassals from GPC, page 130: Salisbury, Silchester (complicated by the Levcomagus issue if you have it in your game), Lindsey, Dorset, Hertford. And Good Vassals: Clarence, Wuerensis, Jagent.

Just a couple of ideas off the top of my head...

Later on, with De Ganis knights rising to fore with Lancelot and starting their own jostle for the limelight with the Orkneys, that would give De Gales knights an ally against a common 'enemy'.

Any enemies of Salisbury and Sussex? They'd gravitate towards the Orkneys.

Older 'eager-vassal' knights might prefer De Gales side, who, after all, fought for Arthur from the first, unlike those blasted Northerners. "Well -I- fought for Arthur at Terrabil, unlike those traitorous scum..." So perhaps look at the list of Eager Vassals from GPC, page 130: Salisbury, Silchester (complicated by the Levcomagus issue if you have it in your game), Lindsey, Dorset, Hertford. And Good Vassals: Clarence, Wuerensis, Jagent.


Lancelot has just arrived and I think the guys were starting to dislike him for all his special snowflake qualities. He, however, was eager to meet them as many of their fathers were the first chivalric knights and he praised the qualities and deeds of their forebears with typical Ganis charm.

Then he made bits of Gawaine in the final round to take the prize at the pentecostal tournament (while not using any of his magical gear for the sake of fairness). I think they are warming to him a bit now.

The Ganis men have been made reasonably welcome by the De gales clan and the PKs have been quite diligent in building alliances with their Acquitainian neighbours to the west and east. As Gawaine is still a bit of a tosser he has been less welcoming - particularly given the deeds of Ban and Bors at Bedegraine.

The most notable enemy of Sussex and Salisbury is Garius, Duke of Gloucester. He has been in an extended feud with one of the PKs families who have been loyal servants of (and protected by) both Sussex and Salisbury. The current Medbourne's father was killed by mercenary knights after Garius betrayed him to Cerdic of Wessex over a woman. More recently the PKs brother slew Garius' second son while jousting in an 'at the crossroads' scenario. The heir to Gloucester has since tried to kill the PK at a tournament in an outrageous display of bad form. He narrowly escaped permanent censure but passions are running high on both sides. Garius is in his seventies now and was always more of a schemer than a warrior. He could well try to line up with the Orkneys if he thinks some Medbournes might get killed in the aggro. He was the least eager of vassals as well so it will be easy for him to spin that to Gawaine -'I always saw your father's claim as just as strong as Arthur's. If only it could have been settled in the proper way at a fair Collegium without Merlin's mummery and Alain's intrigues.'

Another massive enemy is Morgan le Fay. The PKs helped Nimue to save Arthur from her plot when he was forced to battle Sir Accolon. They then guarded him at the abbey when Morgan attempted to steal Excalibur again. A crit on awareness and faerie lore allowed them to confront her. While one PK battled a fiend she summoned she was cornered by Sir Roderick. She turned into a flock of crows to escape. Sir Roderick slew a crow as it flew by and maimed her - two fingers from her left hand are now missing. Would Aunty Morgan help Gawaine? Would he accept the help? I reckon so. Writing this stuff down really brings home how good one player is at starting feuds. He's a disaster zone.

Silchester is an interesting one. With the Marshall of Logres ensconced in Sussex to the south the brothers decided not to rebel after Uffo was slighted by Arthur. There is more to come on this though but Silchester is definitely not a friend to the DeGales at the moment.

King Mark of Cornwall is in a feud with a different Sussex family after the death of King Idres at Terrabil. He has been quiet for a while but could look to trying to reach out to Gawaine (or perhaps Agravaine). Destabilising Logres is definitely on his agenda so sticking an oar into this feud to give it a stir is worth a go.

This is becoming a fault-line running through Britain and the Degales clan are less toothless now than in the default setting with Salisbury and Sussex backing them strongly.

I'm trying to decide how many of the other great knights and landholders will line up in the feud.

I'm thinking Ywaine and Galegantis side with the Orkneys as they are cousins. Marhaus of Leinster is with Gawaine after their exploits in the triple quest but I'm still mulling over many of the rest. Geographical concerns and religion may come into it and with Gawaine being Arthur's favourite those seeking to curry favour may gravitate more to the Orkney side.

Any insights or suggestions for plotlines are most welcome.


Ok a brief on my game and you can use this or not on a variation that Greg says all of our games will very YGWV but this is an attempt to answer this question of yours.

In My game my players actually play knights from the following Earl doms

Julie: Play as the Earl of Huntington's daughter Lady Juliette-Anna Huntington and only child and after his wife died he was too old to merry again so he announced his daughter would inherit his earl dom. This was before he became ill while hunting and it brought on an elvish stroke and he dies a year later, she has managed the Huntington estate sense her mother death. as chief strewed.

While she is friends with Rhodabon DeGanis the younger son of Bilbrous DeGanis the Earl of Essex not Sussex; she has announced she will merry the son of the Earl of Hert Ford Sir Romeo who must prove her love for her and wear her favor in all the great tournaments this year (this can Happen in your game year if you like your game year if you like).

I play Sir Romeo as a pc Has had a feud going with Argawane of the Orkney clan ever sense 515 when he felt he was un truly cruel to an elderly peasont man and almost beta him to death he pulled him off and told him it was unchilvorus to beat up an old man who could not even defend him self. Romeo also bested Argawanye in the personal challenge and made it past 14 other knights 7 being round table knights before he got smashed in the final round by Gawane it was then that the Grey knight appeared with his challenge and caused the panic and the quest with in the adventure of the grey knight they completed the task by finding what was needed to help Gawayne defeat the grey knight and won the day Gwayne is beholding to them for helping him but also loves his brother derly and does not get between them and their feud of upstaging each other at other tourneys, you can play this up any way you like i do lol.

For quick npc stats on these Use the following in the kap rule book pg 36 the courtier both Rhodobon and Romeo are of this type of knight nether of them have the chivalrous bonus but they do both have the christian bonus for having 16 in all their religious stats for Romeo as follows a whooping Chaste 19, Forgiving 16, merciful, 16 modest 16, Prudent 16, and a whooping 19 to prudent; and gets +6 to total hit hit points he also is considers to be one of loves great champions with having a total of 83 in the following stats Forgiving 16, Generous 16, Honest 13, Just 14, Merciful 16, and trusting 16, thies gives him a _2 to to his sword skill and 2d6 extra damage when he is fighting or inspired by love of his lady Juliette-Anna Huntington for he will champion no other she is the one for him, he could be inspired by love of family as well if they challenge his father to a fight he could accept the challenge instead and declare he was fighting for the love of his father if you so desired to go that route. his principle skills are as follows awareness 15, courtesy 15, first aid 13, flirting 25, heraldry 13, hunting 16, Orate 7, Play lute 8, Read latin 3, religion christian 16, Romance 18, and tourney 15, with combat skills as follows Sword and lance both 15 battle 10 horsemen ship 13 and has 8,261 in glory, yes enough to become a round table knight but he has not been asked yet. either of their fathers are round table knights either Tourney stats for Romeo are as follows Sword 15, Damage 6d6, (This raises his Sword 17 and 8d6 when inspired by love) Lance 15 Damage 6d6, Armour 12 reinforced chain knock down 15 and hit points 36.

Use for Rhodobon is not that religous and only has a minium of 65 in loves traits just enough to catch a few eyes and get a +2 to his sword skill when inspired by a love of a lady but his skills for courtesy Dancing, flirting ,play harp, romance and singing are all 20 with 15 in tourney, orate,heraldry and falconry he his master of birds characteristic for family +15+2+17 from base skill list.
for Tournamnet stats Sword 17 damage 4d6, lance 17 damge 4d6 armour 10 chain mail knock down is 12 and hit points 25 glory is 3,133. For their dads stats use old knight stats out of the back of kap 5.0 book pg176 use a mix of young, average and notable knights to fill out the rest of what you need should you need more gpc's and can use the lady's stats for Juliette-Anna-Hunting except her glory is 2,470 her love traits +71 and courtly skills are 15 stewardship is a 15. hope this helps. Also Sir Balamore a notable knight that will led the deganis clan in an adventure should rhodobon be unavailable.

and yes i have some wired house rules I know but the love traits can be found in the blood and lust sup-lament where i am using the inspired by love them from and rules for it are found their.

And the rest of my players play as either Hartford Huntington or Deganis knights of Essex.

Also if war comes the Earl of Hartford can muster 80 knights and 100 solders to fight; Huntington can muster their army of 90 knights and 200 solders; and Ganis can muster 500 knights and 800 solders should they have too call on reinforcements but bilborous maintains a garrison and army of 60 knights and 200 solders in Colchester his home a large city,once the capital of roman Britain.

Hope this helps you and yes you can give me feed back if you like.

This is becoming a fault-line running through Britain and the Degales clan are less toothless now than in the default setting with Salisbury and Sussex backing them strongly.

I'm trying to decide how many of the other great knights and landholders will line up in the feud.

I'm thinking Ywaine and Galegantis side with the Orkneys as they are cousins. Marhaus of Leinster is with Gawaine after their exploits in the triple quest but I'm still mulling over many of the rest. Geographical concerns and religion may come into it and with Gawaine being Arthur's favourite those seeking to curry favour may gravitate more to the Orkney side.

Any insights or suggestions for plotlines are most welcome.


Ok a brief on my game and you can use this or not on a variation that Greg says all of our games will very YGWV but this is an attempt to answer this question of yours.

In My game my players actually play knights from the following Earl doms

Julie: Play as the Earl of Huntington's daughter Lady Juliette-Anna Huntington and only child and after his wife died he was too old to merry again so he announced his daughter would inherit his earl dom. This was before he became ill while hunting and it brought on an elvish stroke and he dies a year later, she has managed the Huntington estate sense her mother death. as chief strewed.

While she is friends with Rhodabon DeGanis the younger son of Bilbrous DeGanis the Earl of Essex not Sussex; she has announced she will merry the son of the Earl of Hert Ford Sir Romeo who must prove her love for her and wear her favor in all the great tournaments this year (this can Happen in your game year if you like your game year if you like).

I play Sir Romeo as a pc Has had a feud going with Argawane of the Orkney clan ever sense 515 when he felt he was un truly cruel to an elderly peasont man and almost beta him to death he pulled him off and told him it was unchilvorus to beat up an old man who could not even defend him self. Romeo also bested Argawanye in the personal challenge and made it past 14 other knights 7 being round table knights before he got smashed in the final round by Gawane it was then that the Grey knight appeared with his challenge and caused the panic and the quest with in the adventure of the grey knight they completed the task by finding what was needed to help Gawayne defeat the grey knight and won the day Gwayne is beholding to them for helping him but also loves his brother derly and does not get between them and their feud of upstaging each other at other tourneys, you can play this up any way you like i do lol.

For quick npc stats on these Use the following in the kap rule book pg 36 the courtier both Rhodobon and Romeo are of this type of knight nether of them have the chivalrous bonus but they do both have the christian bonus for having 16 in all their religious stats for Romeo as follows a whooping Chaste 19, Forgiving 16, merciful, 16 modest 16, Prudent 16, and a whooping 19 to prudent; and gets +6 to total hit hit points he also is considers to be one of loves great champions with having a total of 83 in the following stats Forgiving 16, Generous 16, Honest 13, Just 14, Merciful 16, and trusting 16, thies gives him a _2 to to his sword skill and 2d6 extra damage when he is fighting or inspired by love of his lady Juliette-Anna Huntington for he will champion no other she is the one for him, he could be inspired by love of family as well if they challenge his father to a fight he could accept the challenge instead and declare he was fighting for the love of his father if you so desired to go that route. his principle skills are as follows awareness 15, courtesy 15, first aid 13, flirting 25, heraldry 13, hunting 16, Orate 7, Play lute 8, Read latin 3, religion christian 16, Romance 18, and tourney 15, with combat skills as follows Sword and lance both 15 battle 10 horsemen ship 13 and has 8,261 in glory, yes enough to become a round table knight but he has not been asked yet. either of their fathers are round table knights either Tourney stats for Romeo are as follows Sword 15, Damage 6d6, (This raises his Sword 17 and 8d6 when inspired by love) Lance 15 Damage 6d6, Armour 12 reinforced chain knock down 15 and hit points 36.

Use for Rhodobon is not that religous and only has a minium of 65 in loves traits just enough to catch a few eyes and get a +2 to his sword skill when inspired by a love of a lady but his skills for courtesy Dancing, flirting ,play harp, romance and singing are all 20 with 15 in tourney, orate,heraldry and falconry he his master of birds characteristic for family +15+2+17 from base skill list.
for Tournamnet stats Sword 17 damage 4d6, lance 17 damge 4d6 armour 10 chain mail knock down is 12 and hit points 25 glory is 3,133. For their dads stats use old knight stats out of the back of kap 5.0 book pg176 use a mix of young, average and notable knights to fill out the rest of what you need should you need more gpc's and can use the lady's stats for Juliette-Anna-Hunting except her glory is 2,470 her love traits +71 and courtly skills are 15 stewardship is a 15. hope this helps. Also Sir Balamore a notable knight that will led the deganis clan in an adventure should rhodobon be unavailable.

and yes i have some wired house rules I know but the love traits can be found in the blood and lust sup-lament where i am using the inspired by love them from and rules for it are found their.

And the rest of my players play as either Hartford Huntington or Deganis knights of Essex.

Also if war comes the Earl of Hartford can muster 80 knights and 100 solders to fight; Huntington can muster their army of 90 knights and 200 solders; and Ganis can muster 500 knights and 800 solders should they have too call on reinforcements but bilborous maintains a garrison and army of 60 knights and 200 solders in Colchester his home a large city,once the capital of roman Britain.

Hope this helps you and yes you can give me feed back if you like.


Good stuff.

I've been going through the Arthurian Companion to put together family trees and draw the feud lines. Reading Savage Mountains has also given me some ideas for having Lamorak try to leverage his friendship with the Marshall to get Arthur's help to overthrow Maelgwyn and put a son of Pellinore on the throne of Gomeret.

The Gales don't seem to have much in the line of lands as it stands. In my GPC I've explained this by saying that Arthur offered Pellinore many rewards but he always turned them down citing his love for hunting the Questing Beast and his terrible track record as a ruler. With his death his sons have little to inherit though as Round table Knights they can live comfortably.

Lamorak volunteered for the commando raid to start the french campaign and plans to win enough glory to get a sizable holding from Arthur to build some kind of power base and protect his family.

As far as the Orkney's go, Arthur seems to claim the best land (Lothian) after Lot's defeat. Margawse retains the rule of the Orkney's themselves and the vassalage of Caithness but it seems that the Orkney brothers do not return home often to visit their mother's crazy island of faerie monsters. I imagine that Arthur has granted the brothers enough lands to keep them in chargers and fancy clothes along with their Round Table income but I haven't seen a mention of specific lands or offices. in the Vulgate Gawaine does rise to be constable, gets to use Excalibur and is named heir to Logres but that may be a slightly different Gawaine.

I like the idea of arming the Gales and Orkney men. Has anyone given (or found evidence of) landholdings for the Gales and Orkneys beyond the lost lands of their respective Patriarchs?

Take this with a grain of salt, but didn't Gawaine, Gaheris and Gareth end up married with damosels from their adventures, of at least some were heiresses?

As for Agravaine, in our campaign, he managed to secure the Earldom of Salisbury by marrying Robert's daughter after the male line was extinguished. He also, IOC, has a few manors up in Lothian, and presumably the same is true for his other brothers. It wouldn't stretch my imagination that they'd have some estates also in the Orkney Islands and in Caithness, from which to draw some income.

Take this with a grain of salt, but didn't Gawaine, Gaheris and Gareth end up married with damosels from their adventures, of at least some were heiresses?

As for Agravaine, in our campaign, he managed to secure the Earldom of Salisbury by marrying Robert's daughter after the male line was extinguished. He also, IOC, has a few manors up in Lothian, and presumably the same is true for his other brothers. It wouldn't stretch my imagination that they'd have some estates also in the Orkney Islands and in Caithness, from which to draw some income.


The heiress angle is interesting. It could really put the 'adventuring' of the Gales and Orkney clans in a different light if both sets of warriors were actively trying to gain lands by marriage and defeating 'tyrants' so they could finally get around to going to war with sufficient forces against their hated enemies. Arthur is trying to avoid civil war by limiting the lands he grants them so they need to go outside the system.

It could contrast nicely against a more purely chivalric adventuring spirit of Lancelot and his kin.

It could contrast nicely against a more purely chivalric adventuring spirit of Lancelot and his kin.


*cough cough* If you look at how many de Ganis knights end up as Earls and such under Athur's reign, I'd say they play the heiress game even better than anyone else. And it will be a major sore point with many Orkneys and other 'Briton' clans that these 'outsiders' are taking all the wimmin! :)

Quickly looking through the list of Counties and Lords in Greg's page:
528-563 Ruler: Bleoberis de Ganis, Earl of Essex
530-563 Ruler: Blamore de Ganis, Baron of Lambor
(And of course Henry de Ganis in Benoit and Valence de Ganis in Aquitaine, but those are de Ganis lands to begin with, reconquered with the blessing of Arthur.)

I thought there were more, but even so, that is more than we see of Orkneys and de Gales marrying into Lordships.

I found Gareth!

Lancashire
c. 532-565 Ruler: Sir Gareth (presumably married to lady Liones)

There is 'Lord of Maris'. I am not sure if Ector de Maris would be eligible for this post, being a bastard son of King Ban and 'Lady of Maris'. But if so, it could be claimed to be another lordship for de Ganis clan.

It could contrast nicely against a more purely chivalric adventuring spirit of Lancelot and his kin.


*cough cough* If you look at how many de Ganis knights end up as Earls and such under Athur's reign, I'd say they play the heiress game even better than anyone else. And it will be a major sore point with many Orkneys and other 'Briton' clans that these 'outsiders' are taking all the wimmin! :)

Quickly looking through the list of Counties and Lords in Greg's page:
528-563 Ruler: Bleoberis de Ganis, Earl of Essex
530-563 Ruler: Blamore de Ganis, Baron of Lambor
(And of course Henry de Ganis in Benoit and Valence de Ganis in Aquitaine, but those are de Ganis lands to begin with, reconquered with the blessing of Arthur.)

I thought there were more, but even so, that is more than we see of Orkneys and de Gales marrying into Lordships.

I found Gareth!

Lancashire
c. 532-565 Ruler: Sir Gareth (presumably married to lady Liones)

There is 'Lord of Maris'. I am not sure if Ector de Maris would be eligible for this post, being a bastard son of King Ban and 'Lady of Maris'. But if so, it could be claimed to be another lordship for de Ganis clan.


Nice. I think Gareth marries the heiress to William, Duke of Danger after besting Sir Ironside.

Admiral Theodoric is a Ganis man as well I think. He holds Southports for Arthur according to Saxons!

Also it appears Gawaine may have married the daughter or sister of the King of Escavalon. He appears to have had a tough and near-fatal courtship as he was accused of murdering the King of Escavalon at one stage.

As Alain is Pellinore's brother there may be some blurring of individuals in the narrative here.

It might be interesting if one of the PKs is lined up as a suitor for the Princess Floree by the Gales to try and avoid Gawaine getting a handsome dowry and extra lands. Not to mention the fact that with only Sir Brandiles as Alain's heir it puts Gawaine and his heirs too close to the rulership of one of the most powerful kingdoms in Britain for comfort.