I've got a PK in my campaign with an interesting situation: he's got very high Glory (just past 13,000 at this time) but only a middling Honor (in the 11-12 range, I believe). He started out with a fairly low Honor (rolled randomly) and lost a couple points for reasons outside his control (fumbled an Honor passion roll, got the Fae passion)--it's not like he's lost Honor for doing un-knightly things.

Now, a knight with lots of Glory and a high Honor is obviously a pillar of chivalry and knighthood. Conversely, a knight with lots of Glory and low Honor would be an "infamous" knight like Turquine or Breuse.

But how would you handle a knight who is known throughout the land but is neither great nor terrible (Honor-wise)? How would NPCs react to him or speak of him? Just what does an "average" Honor signify, anyway?

That you are neither un-knightly nor pillar of honor. People know you are a knight, you believe in honour but will not cling to it beyond reason (16+).
Similar to any other trait that is not larger than 16 or smaller than 4 (and hence opposite trait being more than 16).

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That would be my answer as well. A glorious knight, but not a paragon of honor. Still, unless he is in the habit of breaking his word and whatnot (which based on your comments he isn't), then no harm, no foul. People would tend to give him the benefit of the doubt, and frankly, most of the knights in the land would not have especially high honor, either.

So in other words, he's famous, but he's viewed as a "workmanlike" knight. Sort of a John Paul Jones to Lancelot's Robert Plant, if I may. ;D

Famous, but no one talks about his honor, good or bad; they talk about his other deeds, and his notable passions and traits.

I would not link high honor with chivalry. Chivalry is more linked to the chivalrous traits. High honor just means he is known to be a honorable man. Keeps to his word and all such, but chivalry means a lot more.

I think most would recognize him as a famous man. Probably known for some great deeds. But his honor would not stand out. He is probably known for some other trait. the ones that are 16+

I agree with all here in my game i would handle and have a handled similar situations Honor is a passion but he is not passionate about it if it is low but here are things to consider and answer for your campaign now one else can answer this but you

1) Does he hold to a particular knightly code?
2) What are his Passions what is he truly his this knight passionate about? any thing over 16 will work
3) does his chivalry stats = a min-um of 65 to 80+? If yes the he is chivalrous despite his low honor if no then he is not
4) does he have a religious bonus? ie all traits 16+ for each of his religion traits if so he is very pious if no he is very worldly then and needs to get closer to god
5) is his romance score between 65 to 80 the sum of the following traits similar to chivalry bonus these are called The Virtues of Love to be one of her knights She Says: A true lover meets many needs. he must be a brave knight, ready to defend all ladies with his strength. he must also have the virtues of a lover. These are the actions which sets a lover apart from the ordinary man. The Virtues of Love Are: Forgiving, Generous, Honest, just, Merciful, and Trusting. Now everyone is talking about what Guinevere says, (ie game effect if his total Traits are less then 65 no one not even Guinevere will pay him any attentions if he has a minim of 65 Guinevere who just happens to be choosing her knights for the year before the Easter Tourney the knight must prove he has The Virtues of Love to be one of her knights if his total is 80+ he probably will not only become a queens knight but perhaps become one of her champions of love in the stories only 3 such knights ever filled this role sir Armen who was killed by the black knight before the coming of Lancelot he was the queens first champion after she married Arthur, In one story I ran across it was he not kay's father who raised Arthur this was a french story translated to English I for got the title was but you can find his story in the blood and lust supplemental for kap

I saw a copy in pdf format cheep at http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/3250/Blood-and-Lust?it=1

also the rules for love are in here to I have been quoting from. any ways if he has 80+ in his traits all his love passions ie love of family love of wife love of amor love of whatever etc. he can choose to fight for love and not for hate and gain a +2 sword skill and do an extra 2d6 in damge for fighting for any love passion over 16+.

Any way this is how i Handle it depending on how comes above with low honor knights

So Sir key talks about this knight above i mentioned and sneers "why did you here he is not to honorable nor religious nor even chivalrous but yet he is a very lady like pretty boy who does hold up to his own knightly code and all the lady's and even the queen herself talks all about his wonderful tasks of love for the lady's he has done and as well as his romantic deeds he has accomplished". I am taking into the fact his love passions total up to 80+ and the rest of his traits or passions are not more then 15 except those for love are all 16+ in both traits and passion's so their for he is a famous lady's knight, and may get some honor awarded to him for upholding a lady's virtue, or always coming to the aid of some lady in distress as her champion this is an example of what possible out comes their could be..

Any way you have final say in your campaign so you decide whats best for you and your player but this is how i would handle it. Now what if he has non of these qualities about him him then he is an average knight that might be famous but few will ever pay him much mind as they say "Why that knight is below ones standard of what a true knight should be for a true knight would aspire to be at least one of the knights mentioned above." One of my quotes I use in my campaign from Arthur/Guinevere or any lord/Lady this particular knight is serving. The third knight of love was Sir Tor he was squired by sir Armen sponsored by Guinevere and Knighted by Arthur Championed and married sir Armen's daughter Ahvielle's and took up his mantle as loves champion and defeated the Black Knight Brutus sans pitte. However, the blood and lust book leaves this open as a possible adventure a player knight with such quality's might to try and accomplish this of which many of players have ether tried or failed or has succeeded, If he Succeeds Arthur's personal wedding gift to Ahvielle's knight is her fathers title and lands as well as sir Armen's seat at the round table in his place if during the course of the seven year adventure the knight ends up with 8000+ glory. I love running this adventure in case you can't tell.

What several have already stated is that Honor is a measure of the trustworthiness of what a man says while glory is simply a measure of the accomplishments of the knight and how well know those accomplishments are known. Where captain hedges has gone a little over board with how a knight may then be seen he is for the most part correct however i would have to argue that the personality traits of worldly and pious are often times misinterpreted. What you have to take in account is that with the era and the people who are living at the time just because you don't concern yourself with the ways of the gods doesn't mean that you are not a devout believer. Many a pagan in that time would be considered to have a very low pious because of their constant fighting over the worldly thing such as gold, land, and title. Yet they would stop doing what they were doing the minute a diviner of the Fates i.e. witch, or priest in the gods case, would tell them their actions would bring down the anger of their gods or the Fates themselves.