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SirBrastias
05-17-2013, 02:09 PM
Just kind of polling the group here...

Has anyone run the game during the Uther period and had a PK attain the Chivalric Knight trait bonus?

If so, how did you handle that? Technically speaking, the concept of chivalry doesn't exist yet at that point in time. However, this is game full of anachronisms so does anyone really care?

Morien
05-17-2013, 03:16 PM
I think the way we did it back in the day was that you didn't get any Chivalric Glory out of it, but you did get the +3 Armor of Honor. Only when Chivalry becomes fashionable during Arthur's reign do they start getting glory for it, but the supernatural benefit would be there from the start.

YPMV (Your Pendragon May Vary).

Skarpskytten
05-17-2013, 06:32 PM
I do think that I did the same as Morien. It's probably what I would do today, if the subject arose.

Cornelius
05-18-2013, 10:21 AM
Chivalry is part of the magic of Arthur, so I do not give the bonus. It is concept that is foreign.
Although we have not yet reached that point, but when it does I would emphasis on the and less on the trait requirement.

Skarpskytten
05-18-2013, 12:47 PM
I think like this: it's a long game, so it's important that the different eras are really different. But: Chivalry is an important part of the game, and it's boring as a GM to say "no" when players want something. It's better to say "yes, but ... " because then there is a choice, a player choice and a character choice.

So I do allow Chivalry early on (as an ideal, in song and myth, that few lords and knights take seriously), but ... in a harsh world of war and terror, such ideals are hard to hold on to. A PK who tries to be Chivalric during the Uther and Anarchy era will face stiff challenges; a Lord who says: "burn all those villages in retaliation", a family who says "lets go an a vengeance spree against family X for killing cousin Bart", fellow knight who says "they're Saxons, let slaughter them even if they gave up". Instead of a boring "no, we get lot of story material, and lot of interesting choices for the player/PK who will be that one-in-a-thousand knight who actually tries to be Chivalric.

Just my five öre ...

Cornelius
05-18-2013, 03:40 PM
I saw that a word had been left out in my previous comment so here is a try again:

I do allow PKs to try chivalry in the early phases, but I would like it that they try to be a chivalric knight, not to get the glory and armor bonus. So I would emphasis on the oath they take and the way they live their lives as a knight, and not based upon their traits. But a knight in the early phases going for chivalry would be considered eccentric at best, but most of the time plain crazy. they would have very hard life, I think. As I said the idea of Chivalry is foreign and strange. During the early phases other ideals are the norm.