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Morningkiller
05-28-2013, 03:34 AM
We are nearing the end of the Roman wars now. In fact we are now running through 526 and 527 a second time from the point of view of the younger brothers and sons left behind in Sussex while the PKs were off gallivanting around Europe. Lots of old enemies crawling out of the woodwork with the big cheeses absent...

I've been giving some thought to what happens to the large parts of the continent that fall under Arthur's sway over the next few years and what the politics of the continent is like. It seems like this will be important in the Lancelot/Gawaine civil war later and as there could be a DeGales/Orkney civil war a lot sooner I better get cracking.

I'd imagine the Italians and Burgundians quickly return to their former ways and Arthur has little interest in marching over again to set them straight.

It seems that the Ganis men would have retaken some the lands that fell to the Franks when Ban and Bors were lost but that this is quite limited in scope (maybe a couple of coastal castles) and only gets real momentum with the 2nd French War. In Knights Adventurous it lists Claudas as the lord for all rulers in that region but that may be out of date.

Kay is named Duke of Normandy by Arthur and spends some time there consolidating his position but I can find no further mention of Normandy in the GPC. I'd assume some good British knights would be needed to keep these frenchies in line and that Kay might have some lands to distribute to loyal men with a reputation for beating up foreigners. With much of Normandy coastal and one flank bordering the Cymric lands of Brittany (not necessarily a good thing I know) it would seem that Normandy could be held by Arthur and Kay without a huge effort. The fractious nature of the Merovingian politicking would seem to also support this option.

The rest of France I'd imagine quickly forgets whatever oaths were sworn to Arthur.

In my GPC the DeGales/Ganis situation is about to explode and Arthur is now looking for a pressure release valve. The elderly Marshal of Logres has once more defied father time and covered himself in glory using Gawaine's many errors of judgement to deprive him of chances for glory while placing Lamorak and Aglovale front and center at the critical moments (where they performed with distinction). Strong lobbying by another PK (who also saved Arthur's life) has convinced him that the DeGales deserve a reward of land for their great service and the kings sense of justice will make him do this.

Arthur's solution then is to name Sir Lamorak and Sir Aglovale Counts or Barons of some of this new French land in Normandy. It should keep them busy and any armies they raise are difficult to ship over to annoy the Orkneys. Also, Kay will be able to keep an eye on them. To balance this out he will grant Gawaine some small portion of Lot's old holdings in Lothian, again, hoping that the distance keeps things civil. This is at best a medium term solution.

Does this all seem to make sense. Any glaring holes or omissions? Suggestions and crazy ideas more than welcome.

Morien
05-28-2013, 01:04 PM
Makes perfect sense. I did a similar thing in our campaign, made Sir Kay press his claim on Normandy which had fallen a bit on the wayside after Arthur returned to Camelot. After some fighting in Northern France, Key was able to kick some French butt and establish his court in Rouen, as well as reward people who fought for him. There is currently an uneasy peace between Normandy and France.

Your Arthur has even more cause than mine to encourage his knights to fight in France rather than each other. :)

Greg Stafford
05-30-2013, 01:25 AM
Since GPC largely follows Malory, there is not much that occurs on the continent.
I have assumed that most of the conquered people continue to send Arthur tribute
The de Ganis Clan establishes their rule in their old territories
The Round Table attracts great men from across the continent, and who return to their homes and convert people to the Arthurian Way.
Throughout the end of the Romance and beginning of the Tournament Periods revolts do start, especially in France. It's a combination of Merovengian history and the Hundred Years War.
France is a tremendous place to go and adventure.

Morningkiller
05-30-2013, 01:48 AM
Makes perfect sense. I did a similar thing in our campaign, made Sir Kay press his claim on Normandy which had fallen a bit on the wayside after Arthur returned to Camelot. After some fighting in Northern France, Key was able to kick some French butt and establish his court in Rouen, as well as reward people who fought for him. There is currently an uneasy peace between Normandy and France.

Your Arthur has even more cause than mine to encourage his knights to fight in France rather than each other. :)


Sounds good. It might be interesting to put Kay front-and-centre for a bit.

Morningkiller
05-30-2013, 01:55 AM
Since GPC largely follows Malory, there is not much that occurs on the continent.
I have assumed that most of the conquered people continue to send Arthur tribute
The de Ganis Clan establishes their rule in their old territories
The Round Table attracts great men from across the continent, and who return to their homes and convert people to the Arthurian Way.
Throughout the end of the Romance and beginning of the Tournament Periods revolts do start, especially in France. It's a combination of Merovengian history and the Hundred Years War.
France is a tremendous place to go and adventure.


That wil do nicely I think.

I might make the tribute arriving part of the court schedule for certain years. Ambassadors and aspiring knights arriving with treasure, exotic food and wine, a crazy menagerie and some eligible beauties to fall passionately insane over. Maybe a wide-eyed squire from foreign lands with good connections and only a very dim understanding of squiring.

Of course tribute can be stolen en route so plenty of scenario opportunities there too.