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Helmward
11-01-2013, 08:50 AM
Aquitainians have the cultural skill of Venery, which combines Flirting and Romance. However, the practice of courtly romance begins as late as 531 in Arthur's realm.

So, is the practice of courtly love in use in Aquitaine as early as 485, or is it safe to assume that Aquitainians are just really good flirters before the onset of the Romance Phase? None of my players - for one reason or another - have ever rolled Aquitainian characters, but the matter intrigues me nonetheless. The practice of Fine Amor could be introduced earlier than 531 to Britain (perhaps by player knights), if the Visigoths already dabble in it.

Gorgon
11-01-2013, 12:17 PM
You can simply assume that Aquitanians are really good a flirting in the general sense of the word, not in the sense of "institutionalized" Courtly Romance. People certainly flirted with each other a long time before Arthur's time. Arthur's court simply "formalizes" it.

Greg Stafford
11-02-2013, 06:37 PM
Aquitainians have the cultural skill of Venery, which combines Flirting and Romance. However, the practice of courtly romance begins as late as 531 in Arthur's realm.
So, is the practice of courtly love in use in Aquitaine as early as 485, or is it safe to assume that Aquitainians are just really good flirters before the onset of the Romance Phase?

While the latter is certainly a safe assumption, I also agree that the art of Romance also exists in Aquitania before 531. It would be a rough sort, at that date, and both participants must be Aquitanians, as well.

Helmward
11-02-2013, 07:18 PM
Aquitainians have the cultural skill of Venery, which combines Flirting and Romance. However, the practice of courtly romance begins as late as 531 in Arthur's realm.
So, is the practice of courtly love in use in Aquitaine as early as 485, or is it safe to assume that Aquitainians are just really good flirters before the onset of the Romance Phase?

While the latter is certainly a safe assumption, I also agree that the art of Romance also exists in Aquitania before 531. It would be a rough sort, at that date, and both participants must be Aquitanians, as well.


Which is then brought to Britain by the exiled de Ganis clan, I presume. Thank you for your answers, both of you. I am currently beginning a new Pendragon campaign, and am considering shipping the player knights to Aquitaine at some point, to oggle at the strange Visigothic customs of courtly love and troubadours.