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DirkT
02-18-2014, 09:41 AM
Hi!
My campaign is in the Anarchy Phase and several saxon kings demand tribute.
In the Book of the Estate tribute in not mentioned (or have I misunderstood anything?). I like the tribute-idea too much to give it up.
How do you handle this?

Morien
02-18-2014, 10:49 AM
The BoE way (I think):
Get the tribute from the peasants.
(If they complain, send the complainers as slaves to the Saxons as part of the tribute.)

The 'lets make the PKs feel a pinch' way:
For every Tribute, the PK will drop one level in Maintenance. So, a £10 estate knight will roll as Poor, and larger estates as Normal instead of Rich. They can avoid this drop if they pay £3 / tribute from their treasury.

rcvan
02-18-2014, 12:54 PM
Using BotE, I would change the £3 to £5, to match 50% of your manor's value (as one manor is now worth £10, not £6).
The players will somehow have to come up with that money!

BotE has a nice overview on p48 on how to do so. For example, they could moderately squeeze their estate, which will give them the £5 needed. The only change I would apply to the rules would be to modify the traits checked after the squeeze, possibly replacing them with a check for loyalty(lord), just or similar. Raiding, plundering, borrowing are other possible options.

Eothar
02-18-2014, 04:42 PM
I agree with rcvan that the place to look is the Damage and Reconstruction section (pg 44 and on). I would not up the value of the tribute though. For the typical manor (£10 in BoE), £3 would be three lots damage, which matches up with the effects of a 'raid'. That just seems a simple match. During the tribute period, manors are 'raided' yearly.

NT

Morien
02-19-2014, 12:55 PM
rcvan, please note that while the 'sticker price' on the manor has gone up in the BoE, it actually still provides only the £6 for the support of a knight and his wife. Hence, I agree with Eothar and I would not increase the tribute. £3 has been the usual step in the economic maintenance, and hence I think it is a much better fit. Eothar comes up with the raid comparison, too, which makes sense.

From GPC, p. 13:
"Tribute: Tribute, such as that paid to the Saxons throughout much of the Anarchy and Boy King Periods, drains about £3 per manor for one normal tribute payment. In effect, this reduces the result from the Harvest Resolution Table downward by one category per tribute paid that year."

DirkT
02-24-2014, 07:03 PM
Many thanks for you suggestions! After thinking over them and reading the chapter in the BotM I have to agree:
For every tribute income drops one level (BotM). This means 25%. In a 10 L manor 2.5 L (or 3 rounded up).