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Tanty
07-02-2014, 03:39 PM
This is a typo in the Manor List for KPs.

The List says Winterbourne Gunnet and it should Gunner.

The UK TV show Time Team did a dig there.

http://www.tv.com/shows/time-team/winterbourne-gunner-wiltshire-407275/ (http://www.tv.com/shows/time-team/winterbourne-gunner-wiltshire-407275/)

Anglo-Saxon Graves The excavation of a building site in Winterbourne Gunner, near Salisbury. Previous development unearthed evidence of a Saxon graveyard but the team make a totally unexpected and tremendously exciting find of a pot filled with the cremated remains of someone who died 2000 years before the Saxons arrived.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WwiqxJbBqHIC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=medieval +winterbourne+gunner&source=bl&ots=O2sAWxKbZ3&sig= bQacNcnXwykCVc-2NyD2BIgTWnc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Chm0U8bMFIve7AbIxICICg& ved=0CFoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=medieval%20winterbourn e%20gunner&f=false (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WwiqxJbBqHIC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=medieval +winterbourne+gunner&source=bl&ots=O2sAWxKbZ3&sig= bQacNcnXwykCVc-2NyD2BIgTWnc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Chm0U8bMFIve7AbIxICICg& ved=0CFoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=medieval%20winterbourn e%20gunner&f=false)

Taliesin
07-02-2014, 09:56 PM
We're changing all those Old English and Saxon-derived names anyway — well...most of 'em anyway! Stay tuned...


T.

Merlin
07-04-2014, 09:30 AM
Ohh, thanks for that info - one of my player's manors is there. He'll love the extra detail.

Greg Stafford
07-06-2014, 10:40 PM
We're changing all those Old English and Saxon-derived names anyway — well...most of 'em anyway! Stay tuned...

And here they are

Modern Name; KAP Name (Hundred)
Baverstock; Beaverspoint (Birchford)
Berwich St. James; Barleyfield (Dovesfield)
Broughton; Thorngate (Thorngate)
Burcomb; Bridesvale (Birchford)
Cholderton [East]; Coldtown* (Annaswater)
Dinton; Hilltown (Birchford)
Durnford; Hiddenford (Underditch)
Fifield; Fivefield** (Annaswater)
Idmiston; Iderstown (Alder)
Laverstock; Larksnest (Alder)
Newton; Newtown (Branshill)
Pitton; Pittown (Alder)
Shrewton; Brushwood (Dovesfield)
Steeple Langford; Steeple Longford (Branshill)
Stoke (Winterstream Farm) (Dovesfield)
Tisbury; Ramstown (Hillfort)
Winterbourne Gunner; Winterstream (Alder)
Woodford; Woodford (Underditch)
Wylye; Wylye (Branshill)
* replaces Cholderton (Ambrius)
** replaces Newton Tony (Ambrius)

Dan
07-07-2014, 11:10 AM
Purely out of curiosity, what is the thinking behind the name changes?

Morien
07-07-2014, 04:55 PM
Purely out of curiosity, what is the thinking behind the name changes?


Here you go:
http://nocturnal-media.com/forum/index.php?topic=1999.msg16023#msg16023

Tanty
07-15-2014, 12:35 PM
Will this name from the GPC get changed too?

Mercred Creek as we do not have Creeks here in Brition. We have brooks, rivers, burns, streams as plenty but no Creeks.


Again, Florence of Worcester says, " a.d. 485, JElla fighting the
3ritons near Mercreds-bernan, that is Mercreds Brook (Rivus Mereredi)
lew numbers of them and put the rest to flight."

https://archive.org/stream/sussexarchaeolog40suss/sussexarchaeolog40suss_djvu.txt

Greg Stafford
07-15-2014, 10:35 PM
Will this name from the GPC get changed too?
Mercred Creek as we do not have Creeks here in Brition. We have brooks, rivers, burns, streams as plenty but no Creeks.

I haven't changed the names of the waterways for two reasons:
1. They are usually so old no one actually remembers what their names meant
2. In the same vein, They are so old that even the experts in this don't know what they originally meant.

I will guess that the change of brook to creek is my error.