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PrinceKevin
07-31-2014, 11:47 AM
Hey,

I created a randomization table based on the available options in the free version of coat of arms design studio (link below) and created some coa's with it. I'm not sure whether I can just publish these freely on the web so anyone interested in those can just send me a pm with an e-mail and I'll get them to you.

Coat of arms Pack (http://bit.ly/1oij1Mz)

There are 52 images in this pack, about half of which are the lady's version (lozenge) of the coa.
EDIT: luckythirteen (http://nocturnal-media.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=185755) created all KAP coa's (over 200 images) from the following supplements and allowed me to share them, so they are now also in the pack (Praise him!):

4th Edition Rulebook
Blood & Lust
Book of Armies
The Great Pendragon Campaign
Greg Stafford's Website
Knights Adventurous
Perilous Forest
Saxons!
Tales of Chivalry and Romance
Tales of Magic and Miracles
The Grey Knight
The Specter King
The Tournament of Dreams


I encourage you to make some coa's yourself (either based on the randomization table {see attachment} or on your own accord). If you send them to me, I will add them to the package and post a notification once there is more.

Note about the tables:
There are no color options available in the random table, these will be added at a later point in time. Of course if someone is willing to come up with one I like and shares it here, I'll probably just steal that. Tell me if you don't want that.
The general rule I (didn't always) use: Either metal colors ( or/sable) for the Creature/Symbol/Ordinary and the other colors for the rest or vice versa.
Also the tables are not dice-friendly (except for the first one) so you'll have to find a number randomizer yourself. Or just re-roll results that aren't on the table.

Behind some of the creatures and symbols there are further randomization notes, i.e. "Rose (D2)". This simply means that there is more than one option to choose and you simply re-roll which of the several designs to take.

The designing of the coa's has to be done manually unfortunately.

coat of arms designer studio (use the free version): http://inkwellideas.com/coat_of_arms/
If you're saving the images, make sure that you have the option to save with transparent background checked. This makes it far easier to create further works from your designs (i.e. cards with pictures as I've seen somewhere on these forums). This has to be done manually every time you start the software.

PrinceKevin
08-07-2014, 01:39 PM
Replying to my own topic, but it's worth it!

luckythirteen created over 200 coa's from several KAP Books. These are now part of the package. And even more awesome: the .coa files are included, so you can modify the arms at your wish!
Thank you luckythirteen! ;D

Also, I have decided to make the files freely available. Link is in the main topic.

Taliesin
08-07-2014, 01:49 PM
Wow, what a great resource! Thanks for sharing!


T.

luckythirteen
08-07-2014, 02:29 PM
I want to thank PrinceKevin for bringing the Coat of Arms Design Studio (http://inkwellideas.com/coat_of_arms/free-version/) to my attention. It is incredibly powerful and easy to use. It only took me an average of around 5 minutes per coat of arms to make these (particularly once I started learning the tool and understand the vocabulary).

Using the free version exclusively I was able to re-create over 90% of the published Coat of Arms in the KAP materials that I have. The author of the app use graphics from A Complete Guide to Heraldry by Arthur Charles Fox-Davies and Illustrated by Graham Johnston, originally published 1909. I am guessing that many of the published KAP materials used these same images, or something very similar because many of the charges are identical. I am probably going to purchase the paid version of the app which allows you to import graphics, but I wanted to ensure this worked for everyone so I used the free version exclusively to avoid compatibility issues.

There are a few Coats of Arms that I was unable to create in the tool. For example, there is no floating bull's head charge (Bull's Head afronty) so for these, I replaced the charge with a Bull Passant. There were also no charges for "blood drops" so for these, I used the "comet" icon, colored it red, and shrunk the size down so that you can't really tell that it isn't and exact match. There were a few important characters that I couldn't find any similar charges such as the "arm" for Sir Brastias and (much to my surprise) the Holy Grail for King Pellam. In these cases I used Gimp to copy an image from the PDF onto the .png file itself. They don't look quite as good IMHO, but certainly get the job done.

The software also doesn't support "wavy" lines (for example, Thomas Malory's coat of arms). These aren't that common, but for those I just used straight lines instead. I figured the point of a coat of arms is to be able to identify who an individual is by the pattern of their arms, and I think the tool allows us to accomplish that.

I have the coats of arms organized by source (i.e; a folder for the GPC, a folder for Blood & Lust, etc). I made the decision to try and include every coat of arms in a book, even if they are also listed in a different book already. This means some coats of arms (such as Arthur's) are duplicated a few times. It makes it easier for me to locate the arms when I need them though instead of having to search through every folder and the file sizes aren't that large so it was worth it to me.

Finally, I included a .png file for those that just want to use the coat of arms "as is." However, I also included the ".coa" file which can be imported into the free tool so that you can add differences, or change the shape of the shield to a lozenge for a Lady's coat of arms, etc. You can also tweak the files if necessary (for example, if I forgot to export the .png with the transparency layer!). One word of warning, before you import, make sure you create a "new" shield first, otherwise it will just layer the "imported" coat of arms on top of whatever you have open at the time!

Thanks again PrinceKevin for bringing such a powerful tool to my attention. This was a lot of work, but I enjoyed it. 8)

Talmor
08-07-2014, 04:14 PM
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

karmi
08-08-2014, 09:09 AM
Thanks, absolutely fabulous!

I had already created coats of arms for all the canon characters, but your Pendragon-related heraldry will be a very nice addendum to our campaign character database. :)

Varrus
01-26-2015, 08:37 PM
Great work PrinceKevin and luckythirteen. I love random tables.

PrinceKevin, has anybody considered putting your randomization tables into something like Abulafia? Producing a text description of a coat of arms is nothing as neat as the visual itself, but it removes the need for rolling.