I swear that I ran across one of these here or on Greg's page once upon a time. Does anyone recall it or am I going nuts?

I swear that I ran across one of these here or on Greg's page once upon a time. Does anyone recall it or am I going nuts?


You're right, but last time I checked the link was broken. I recovered it through wayback-machine, though, and have an Opera Web Docucment-file of it, if you're interested.

The link is broken: http://www.gspendragon.com/leaders.html.

I found it on Wayback via your link. Thanks so much!

You're welcome!

The link is broken: http://www.gspendragon.com/leaders.html.

Actually I removed it because it is so, so wrong
When you get Book of Warlords, you will see what I mean

Actually I removed it because it is so, so wrong
When you get Book of Warlords, you will see what I mean


Still, its nice to have something to work with, while we wait ;) Just to have a bunch of names if the need comes up mid-session is nice.

When is BoW due?

Actually I removed it because it is so, so wrong
When you get Book of Warlords, you will see what I mean

Still, its nice to have something to work with, while we wait ;) Just to have a bunch of names if the need comes up mid-session is nice.
When is BoW due?

Yes, I understand
I'll be posting the list of the Uther Period lords soon
As for when it is due out, I'd say pretty soon. It is monstrously huge and we have been faced with "doing it right" so that there are not those pesky questions like the ones about BoE economics
My own clumsiness has caused the Salisbury charter to be redone about four times
But soon!
or at least soonish

The Book of the Warlord should get released for final QC review to our crack international team of proofers this week!

As Greg said, we've gotten a little bogged down in last-minute edits and changes but this book is enormous — about 184 pages, chock-full of Early Phase barony goodness. Nearly 20 new maps and basic stats for over 200 castles! Four sample baronial holdings! Three baronial charters, complete with breakdown of their terms! A warlord generator! Can't wait to get it into your hands!


T.

My wallet is ready for a dead-tree copy.

And a list of the Warlords of Uther will be on my website very soon

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Great Pendragon Campaign" part of the forum?

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Great Pendragon Campaign" part of the forum?

Yes I think so
Please, keepers of this forum--make it so!

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Great Pendragon Campaign" part of the forum?

Yes I think so
Please, keepers of this forum--make it so!


Your wish is my command!

And a list of the Warlords of Uther will be on my website very soon

And here it is!
http://gspendragon.com/barons_of_logres_extract.pdf

And despite what it says at the top of the page, this is from Book of the Warlord

This is all kinds of awesome. Can't wait for BotW! ;D

Edit: THAT MAP!!!!! 8)

There is *so* much information in this document and it is very applicable for the campaign I just started. The more I dig the more I appreciate it.

I did have one question (and if I need to wait for BotW, I understand). Sir Lucius, Duke of the Saxon Shore (would he go by Duke Lucious? Duke Saxon Shore doesn't roll of the tongue very easily!) is listed as being the Castellan of Fort Bran in Caerwent. Am I correct in assuming that this means his Caput Major was likely gifted, rather than granted (otherwise he would be listed as Lord, not Castellan)?

This is interesting to me because Lucious just recently met his demise in Southern Caercolun (in 486 I believe) and I was wondering if his son would inherit Fort Bran. The way I'm interpreting it right now, he likely would not. However, I do see that there is a Duke of Caercolun listed again in the year 500, so either I interpret the first Duke's death as a typo and have his "real" death be the year 500, or I could say that Uther gifts the same estate to Sir Lucious' son and makes him Castellan as well. That is an important location to defend so having the resources to support an army would be important! That would also be a great way to "reward" a loyal Duke who had died in battle defending Logres from the Saxons.

Just curious. :)

There is *so* much information in this document and it is very applicable for the campaign I just started. The more I dig the more I appreciate it.

Thank you


I did have one question (and if I need to wait for BotW, I understand). Sir Lucius, Duke of the Saxon Shore (would he go by Duke Lucius?

Well, he's only 6 years old here
His aunt, Baroness Pomponia, is his custodian and has put him in the care of one of her men, Marvis de Revel

Duke Saxon Shore doesn't roll of the tongue very easily!) is listed as being the Castellan of Fort Bran in Caerwent. Am I correct in assuming that this means his Caput Major was likely gifted,

His holding is actually held By Time Immemorial, which means that it's been in his ancestral lineage since Roman times


rather than granted (otherwise he would be listed as Lord, not Castellan)?

Hm, castellan there is an error
thanks for pointing it out

Thanks Greg.

A little more feedback. This is almost more "errata" than anything else. I'm not sure how close to the published version this is, so it may have already been corrected. I could easily be overlooking something too! :o

1. On the map, I see every county name except for "Caercolun" (I can see the outline of the county borders, just not the name itself).
2. I was unable to locate Caput #2 "Battleaxe Pillar (Tintagel)" on the map.
3. Caput Major #13 Hartspool is listed as being in "Caercolun", but the map makes it appear like it may be in "Huntland." This also may conflict with the note at the bottom about there being no Warlords in Huntland.
4. Caput #17 "Meadowstream (Dorsette)" is listed as Weir Meadow, which I believe may translate to "Meadow River/Stream" so there is no real gameplay impact, I can deduce where the Caput is supposed to be, but there is a potential consistency issue here.
5. Caput #24 "Sentinel Ridge (Tribruit)". Similar issue as above. Map lists this as "The Sentinel" instead of "Sentinel Ridge." No gameplay impact, consistency issue only.
6. Caput #29 "Weirstream (Dorsette). I am unable to locate this Caput on the map. I'm almost wondering if this and Caput #17 were accidentally merged together. They are both listed as fortified towns and are similarly named.
7. Caput #33 "Hidden Valley (Clarence)". I'm being SUPER picky here, but the map lists the name "Hidden Vale" instead of "Hidden Valley." Absolutely clear what this is supposed to be, no gameplay impact.
8. Caput #34 "The Ferry". I don't see this on the map, and don't see a county listed. Perhaps there is something special going on for this?
9. Caput #36 "Field of Doves (Bedegraine)". Another small consistency issue, this is listed as "Bedegraine" on the map, making it obvious who this is supposed to be, but doesn't match the description. No gameplay impact.
10. Caput #39 "Clean Stream (Devon)". Could be missing something, but I thought Devon was renamed to "Ascalon." I also don't see this on the map. I assume he might be a "Great Baron?" Or maybe Devon has been moved into "Cornwall" and is "off the map?"
11. Caput #45 "Rapid Stream (Summerland?). I was unable to locate this castle on the map. Perhaps that is because it's "hidden?"

If it's not obvious, I'm loving this. Can't wait for the rest. 8)

Thanks Greg.
A little more feedback. This is almost more "errata" than anything else. I'm not sure how close to the published version this is, so it may have already been corrected. I could easily be overlooking something too! :o

Thank you too.
The maps are all being proofed by a reliable team of proofers
You will see what a task this is when you see the final book


1. On the map, I see every county name except for "Caercolun" (I can see the outline of the county borders, just not the name itself).

You are right


2. I was unable to locate Caput #2 "Battleaxe Pillar (Tintagel)" on the map.

Correct
See the River Tone in Tintagel County?
It is at the mouth of that river


3. Caput Major #13 Hartspool is listed as being in "Caercolun", but the map makes it appear like it may be in "Huntland." This also may conflict with the note at the bottom about there being no Warlords in Huntland.

It is in the wrong place
ought to be--in final will be--ENE of Guinnon


4. Caput #17 "Meadowstream (Dorsette)" is listed as Weir Meadow, which I believe may translate to "Meadow River/Stream" so there is no real gameplay impact, I can deduce where the Caput is supposed to be, but there is a potential consistency issue here.

Actually Weir Meadow = the Meadow with the weir (fishtrap)
It's in the right place
The site called Wimborne is mislabeled, and ought to be labelled Meadowstream


5. Caput #24 "Sentinel Ridge (Tribruit)". Similar issue as above. Map lists this as "The Sentinel" instead of "Sentinel Ridge." No gameplay impact, consistency issue only.

Ought to be Sentinel Ridge, or in long form, The Castle on Sentinel Ridge
which is, btw, one of the possible player castles for barons


6. Caput #29 "Weirstream (Dorsette). I am unable to locate this Caput on the map. I'm almost wondering if this and Caput #17 were accidentally merged together. They are both listed as fortified towns and are similarly named.

This one ought to be Weir Meadow


7. Caput #33 "Hidden Valley (Clarence)". I'm being SUPER picky here, but the map lists the name "Hidden Vale" instead of "Hidden Valley." Absolutely clear what this is supposed to be, no gameplay impact.

Super Picky is great!
Castle of the Hidden Valley is correct


8. Caput #34 "The Ferry". I don't see this on the map, and don't see a county listed. Perhaps there is something special going on for this?
Castle

Ah, this is a name change that was not updated
Ferry is correct
Actually of course, Castle at the Ferry


9. Caput #36 "Field of Doves (Bedegraine)". Another small consistency issue, this is listed as "Bedegraine" on the map, making it obvious who this is supposed to be, but doesn't match the description. No gameplay impact.

Well, except that Castle of the Field of Doves was left off!
It is supposed to be just below the D in the county name, west of the river


10. Caput #39 "Clean Stream (Devon)". Could be missing something, but I thought Devon was renamed to "Ascalon." I also don't see this on the map. I assume he might be a "Great Baron?" Or maybe Devon has been moved into "Cornwall" and is "off the map?"

Nope, typo
Ought to be Ascalon
Which, btw, is not exactly Devon, but also part of Somerset


11. Caput #45 "Rapid Stream (Summerland?). I was unable to locate this castle on the map. Perhaps that is because it's "hidden?"

Nope, another name change
Should be Roaring Stream, not Rapid
But it also should not be under the King of Summerland, because this is another possible player baron starting castle


If it's not obvious, I'm loving this. Can't wait for the rest. 8)

Thank you for the help, Sir Lucky 13

I hope everyone will enjoy it as much as you!
Will you please contact me offline?

Thanks as always Greg!

7. Caput #33 "Hidden Valley (Clarence)". I'm being SUPER picky here, but the map lists the name "Hidden Vale" instead of "Hidden Valley." Absolutely clear what this is supposed to be, no gameplay impact.

Super Picky is great!
Castle of the Hidden Valley is correct


Au contraire. We decided to change it to "Hidden Vale" to avoid any jokes at the game table about "Castle Hidden Valley Ranch". You international folks may not get the joke, but it's a reference to a prominent brand of salad dressing.


T.

Thanks, luckythirteen.

I'd forgotten that section of the book had not yet been QC'd. It has now! We'll be posting a revised PDF very soon.


Best,


T.