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Cavalier
08-30-2015, 06:01 AM
Firstly, in my game, Lady Jenna is unmarried and of marriageable age. My players have neglected to make use of this, not being up on the eligible bachelors of Logres, so I was thinking about Countess Ellen suggesting a match between Jenna and some lucky lordling. The question is, who?
Prince Cynric of Wessex is right out, being Saxon, and I think that any immediate relatives of Duke Ulfius are related to Ellen, though I'm not sure of that. Nanteleod is married (presumably), Mark is interested in Ellen, who else is there?

Secondly, during this period, would a lord who had a famous enemy in his power execute the guy or use him as a hostage to demand ransom, vows of fealty, or similar concessions?

And thirdly, what would happen if a knight made a deal with the King of Sauvage (or his retainers) to guard a site in exchange for a favor, but told would-be intruders to return after the knight's tenure as guardian was over?

Morien
08-30-2015, 07:03 AM
Nanteleod is married (presumably), Mark is interested in Ellen, who else is there?


Whoever you want. It is Anarchy, after all.

Nanteleod probably -isn't- married, since his heir is his bastard, Sir Alan of Carlion. (Sir Alan is a bastard, IMHO, since his parentage wasn't known for years and years in GPC.) However, he might be a bit too old for Jenna.

Praetor Jonathan of Dorset would probably be around the correct age. He has two adult children in the Heart Blade adventure (guestimated time from 520 - 530s).



Secondly, during this period, would a lord who had a famous enemy in his power execute the guy or use him as a hostage to demand ransom, vows of fealty, or similar concessions?


Whatever gives him the most advantage. Is the Lord honorable? Is the enemy honorable? Does the Lord Hate this guy with a passion, literally? Ransom would be normal, Hate might lead to execution, and of course opportunistic approach would be to extort vows of fealty (not unknown, either, see Harold & William).



And thirdly, what would happen if a knight made a deal with the King of Sauvage (or his retainers) to guard a site in exchange for a favor, but told would-be intruders to return after the knight's tenure as guardian was over?


Bit suspect, but it does fulfil the letter of the agreement. What happens afterwards is not the knight's problem, and as long as he keeps the invaders away during his term, he is keeping his word. Even if he is telling them that his shift is over in a X or so. Mind you, it might make the other side of the agreement to interpret the deal more literally, too, but it is not as if the knight is letting everyone to the site. He is still guarding it.

Cornelius
08-31-2015, 04:03 PM
In my game Lady Jenna married with Praetor Jonathel to broker a deal with Dorset. It sealed an alliance between Salisbury and Dorset.

As for other options, there are of course enough lordlings. Since she is an important catch a good deal must be able.

Skarpskytten
08-31-2015, 06:43 PM
But why not Cynic of Wessex? Perhaps he is keen on a cymric wife and has heard about Lady Jenna? If he gets her, there will be no demands for tribute coming that way and Salisbury may get a strong ally against the other saxons "kings".

This could lead to some interesting discussions at court. And good role-playing, like trying to convine Lady Jenna (currently on hunger strike and threathing to run away to become a nun) to see the error of her ways. Or help her escape this horrible fate.

Hzark10
08-31-2015, 11:39 PM
Indeed. Cynic of Wessex is an excellent choice for those campaigns where it is not straight combat. Cynic is the son of the High King Vortigern and his wife Rowena, the daughter of a Saxon King. Vortigern was killed by the Pendragons, so there are those who still would view Vortigern's son as the true king.

That was one of the plot lines I was using in my campaign and the players had to deal with him on a regular basis.

Remember, this is the Anarchy phase and the campaign is really wide open. If they want to conquer again and again, they can, base upon what they and the gamemaster can agree to.

Morien
09-01-2015, 12:03 AM
Indeed. Cynic of Wessex is an excellent choice for those campaigns where it is not straight combat. Cynic is the son of the High King Vortigern and his wife Rowena, the daughter of a Saxon King.


Cyning of Wessex = King of Wessex = Cerdic = the son of Vortigern & Rowena
Cynric of Wessex = Cerdic's son = the grandson of Vortigern & Rowena

Just setting the record straight. :)

Hzark10
09-01-2015, 01:56 AM
thank you for the clarification. Too many Cy... names for one who just got home form seeing numbers all day.