Gilmere
03-15-2016, 02:36 PM
http://www.gspendragon.com/sarumrock.html
Does Roderick have any siblings? I've not seen any mentioned.
Morien
03-15-2016, 05:36 PM
None have been mentioned in any publication that I can recall, and none come out of the woodworks during the Anarchy to claim the inheritance, so I am guessing no.
Just to note that this family tree you have made is not the canon one, as far as I know (Robyn's death and his ancestors, Ellen's name & father, Robert's sons...). Just mentioning it so that people don't get confused about who the heck this Richard is. :)
I assume that Roderick's death year of 485 is just a typo and that it should be 495?
Gilmere
03-15-2016, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the reply!
And about the image, it's not my family tree. It's Gregs! I was under the impression it was the official one, since it was on Gregs page. :)
Morien
03-15-2016, 08:33 PM
And about the image, it's not my family tree. It's Gregs! I was under the impression it was the official one, since it was on Gregs page. :)
Well so it is (on his website)! I didn't even look at the address, just clicked the link and assumed from the discrepancies that it was what was happening in your own campaign. My apologies. :)
We should be able to do better than this, though...
Robyn should die at the Night of the Long Knives (463) as stated in KAP 5.1 family history, and in the Marriage of Count Roderick. Also, at 17 years old, he is pretty young to marry and have a son. Not impossible, but my personal preference would be to have him in his early twenties when Roderick is born in 450. This would put his birth in late 420s, rather than early 430s. (Same argument can be made for Renn being 18 when Rudderch was born.)
While Robyn's wife has not been named officially as far as I know, we do know from Roderick's charter in BotW that she was a powerful heiress:
"through inheritance from the marriage of his esteemed father and most worthy mother, Lordship of the Castle of the Ford of the Roe Deer in Thamesmouth, and also Hundred Lord of Rockstown in Ascalon, Highhome in Tribruit, with diverse manors attached,"
Roderick should die in 495, as I said earlier, not in 485.
Ellen is born in 467. We don't have a death date for him, as far as I know. Her original home was the Barony of Wynchbank, so by the medieval naming traditions, calling her Ellen of Wynchbank would work. Her father was Baron Gwylon of Wynchbank, who died in the Battle of Salisbury (480); the date of birth was not specified. (The Marriage of Count Roderick)
The Children are Jenna (born 484, dies ?) and Robert (492 - ?).
As for Robert's wife and children, based on 4th edition, there would be wife Katherine of the White Horse Vale and his ONLY son, Sir Gondrins (already a knight in 531 in 4th edition). However, I have a feeling Robert was older in 4th edition, because this would require Robert to marry during Anarchy, which I doubt. So the canonical status of 4th edition is a bit suspect, at least age-wise.
Gilmere
03-17-2016, 09:07 AM
Thank you again Morien.
A good summary of points there!
Morien
03-17-2016, 10:34 AM
Thank you again Morien.
A good summary of points there!
Happy to help! :)
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