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Makofan
03-29-2016, 02:05 AM
I am about to send my players to Wynchbank Castle. Where is the barony of Wynchbank?

Morien
03-29-2016, 08:00 AM
Wynchbank = Windsor, iirc.

EDIT: Yep, it is. I checked from the castle map.

Makofan
03-29-2016, 01:28 PM
Thanks, following your lead I found it in the book of Uther. It is hard sometimes to find things when you have to search Uther, Warlord, Estate, GPC and Core rulebook to find that one morsel!

Morien
03-29-2016, 02:42 PM
Preaching to the choir there...

Having a complete, errataed place name list online would help. One could just go there and press find in the web browser followed by the name he wishes to look up. AFAIK, there is no such website at the moment although I would be happy to be proven wrong. At least then you'd just have to check one source...

Greg Stafford
03-31-2016, 03:57 AM
Preaching to the choir there...

Having a complete, errataed place name list online would help. One could just go there and press find in the web browser followed by the name he wishes to look up. AFAIK, there is no such website at the moment although I would be happy to be proven wrong. At least then you'd just have to check one source...

I thought that the majority had decided they didn't like the "translated" names and wanted the actual modern names to be used.
I have a multi hundred-page translation of the names which is incomplete and needs work.
Maybe I ought to have another vote and get more peoples' input on this?

Morien
03-31-2016, 09:26 AM
I thought that the majority had decided they didn't like the "translated" names and wanted the actual modern names to be used.

That is correct. This is one of the examples where the 'translated' names are a pain; with 'Windsor' you can just put it to Google Maps and you are done. You can even get a nice distance estimate by using the walking distance between Sarum and Windsor. I use Google Maps all the time when I need to check how long it takes for the PKs to ride to X, if it is important enough to know ("Do I have time to visit X before Pentecost?").

The problem is that since the translated names are used in BotW, BotE and BoU (and in the Marriage of Count Roderick, too), one needs to jump through the extra hoop and i is a legacy problem even if future publications go back to the modern placenames; you'll still need a list of translated and modern placenames to make the match (just the other way around). And unfortunately, the appendices of Place-names are not always complete, for instance Wynchbank was missing from BotW. (It is in BoU, though. BoU might be the best place to look for the matches with real places, since I think it probably had the most cumulative proof-reading coming as the latest publication.)

As you say, even your own document is incomplete and needs work. In short, a pain.

What I was thinking was a simple text file (cut and paste of Appendix F of BoU). Heck, if you are willing to give permission for it, we could simply put it here on the Forum and correct it if someone notices that some place mentioned in the books is missing its modern placename? Just to have the most complete, up-to--date list so that people can simply take a look at it in one place when they are using any of the translated placenames books.

Makofan
04-06-2016, 03:25 PM
I figure you put these ancient names in Estate/Uther/Warlord, it's too late to back out now. Just give us a little help. I figured out White City was Winchester on my own, but that was rather obvious, and of course Winchester is a Saxon word and would not have been used back then. It was called Venta Bulgae I believe.

Morien
04-06-2016, 03:54 PM
Venta Bulgae I believe.

Venta Belgarum, to be exact.