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Calarion
02-16-2009, 06:12 AM
I have to say that the Great Pendragon Campaign is possibly the best RPG supplement I've ever read! But as I was reading through it, I noticed a grievous omission in the timeline!

Does anyone have a date for when Sir Gareth joined the Round Table?

(Ok, I admit it, it's probably not that grievous an omission unless Gareth is your favourite knight, like he is mine... :))

Other, less-important questions I have from the timeline would be when Sir Bruenor, aka La Cote Mal Taile, first showed up, and when Sir Lancelot finally gave in to everyone badgering him and decided to sign on the dotted line? The 3rd edition book says 531, but I notice that the GPC specifically says he didn't join that year.

Greg Stafford
03-07-2009, 01:39 AM
Great questions, Calarion. You know that because
1. no one has stepped forward on it at all, and
2. it's taken this long for even me to get some information together.
:D



Does anyone have a date for when Sir Gareth joined the Round Table?



I deliberately omitted the story of Gareth because it's a wonderful thing to subject a player to in a solo. It is easily adapted to a party of characters as well. I realize now of course I could have made mention of approximately when it occurred, for a plethora of reason. (I'll note it for the 2nd editon :D)

I see the earliest mention of Sir Gareth is in the year 546 (GPC, page 291), where the gossiping girls imply that his reputation as a good guy is already well established.

In 544, a couple of years earlier, his brother Sir Gaheris had killed their mother, and I've always imagined that Gareth was established before that event.

540 is the start of the Tournament Period, and it seems right that Gareth was a little before that, at the end of the Romance Period.

535 or so, then, for the Story of Gareth to be in the GPC.




Other, less-important questions I have from the timeline would be when Sir Bruenor, aka La Cote Mal Taile, first showed up,



This story was omitted from the chronology for the same reason as the Gareth story. Heck, in some ways it is the same story after all. So I'll give about the same date for the events related in Malory for La Cote Mal Taile--say sometime between 530 and 540 or so.




and when Sir Lancelot finally gave in to everyone badgering him and decided to sign on the dotted line?



In my effort to de-emphasize this superhero and/or insufferable hypocrite in the campaign I neglected some important facts, including this date. I do encourage all GMs to make it whatever date best suits your campaign.

And I note that in my copy of GPC, under "New Round Table Members" for the year 539 (page 259) I have written "LANCELOT at last." This is the year after the kidnapping by Sir Meliagrance, and Lancelot simply can not escape his honor any more. (He still gets his Humble Check when he accepts the honor.)

--Greg

Calarion
03-07-2009, 04:28 AM
Thank you! Now I just have to get a campaign organised. Silly real life, getting in the way of important gaming! ;)

I have some more questions though, this time about Arthur's sons. On pages 233-4 it's established that Borre is born to Lyanors after Bedegraine, and Loholt to Lyzianor after Carlion. On pg 133, Lyzianor tends Arthur's wounds after Bedegraine (and no mention is made of Lyanors). On pg 281, Lyzianor is mentioned as Borre's mother.

Is it Lyzianor - Carlion - Loholt, Lyanors - Bedegraine - Borre, or Lyanors - Carlion - Loholt, Lyzianor - Bedegraine - Borre, or some other combination?

Greg Stafford
03-08-2009, 04:44 PM
Thank you! Now I just have to get a campaign organised. Silly real life, getting in the way of important gaming! ;)



Yes, let us keep priorities straight. You can imagine what a boon it is to be married to a Pendragon player and GM. I bet that even if we still had babies in diapers we would find time to play. :)



I have some more questions though, this time about Arthur's sons. On pages 233-4 it's established that Borre is born to Lyanors after Bedegraine, and Loholt to Lyzianor after Carlion. On pg 133, Lyzianor tends Arthur's wounds after Bedegraine (and no mention is made of Lyanors). On pg 281, Lyzianor is mentioned as Borre's mother.



Wow, check that "Editorial" skill! Thank you for plucking these knobby little errors out of the sauce.
Mea culpa. I have fallen victim to one of the many duplications so common in Arthurian literature. I thought we'd kept it straight too. Wow, just shows what can creep in to such a huge manuscript.



Is it Lyzianor - Carlion - Loholt, Lyanors - Bedegraine - Borre, or Lyanors - Carlion - Loholt, Lyzianor - Bedegraine - Borre, or some other combination?


Lady Lyzianor, daughter of a poor knight of Carlion, is the mother of Sir Loholt, the humble, unassuming adventurous knight
Lady Lyanors, daughter of the Earl of Bedegraine, is the mother of Sir Borre, the haughty, boisterous courtly knight

I've noted the corrections, and will list them in the Errata soon.

Keep up the good work!

Rhialto
03-08-2009, 06:17 PM
This seems like a good place to ask another son question--suppose you want to add Gwydre. Any reccomendations on where to place him on the timeline?