One of the characters in my game is a young noblewoman, an heiress of the adventurous persuasion (she rides better than most knights). She is in an amor with her guardian's son and heir. (It's been interesting to play that out from the women's perspective, though mostly she's been using it as an excuse to join the adventures... "A knight who loved me would take me with him when he battles the giant.")

The desire, on a metagame level, is to have the two eventually marry... but it would be boring to have that just happen. They both have to earn it. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for adventures, intrigues and/or politicking for an adventurous noblewoman trying to secure the husband of her choice.

1. One easy option would be to have the guardian's liege lord start dropping hints that the heiress should marry Sir X, who is either an older, glorious, loyal household knight of the liege lord, or perhaps someone the liege lord wishes to tie to himself politically (like an estate holder's heir).

2. Or even worse, if the guardian is an NPC, he could die. Thus, the issue of who the heiress marries drops back to the liege lord's lap, who might not have incentive to allow the two to marry (see above for alternatives).

So in both the above cases, the knight should start getting more glory under his belt and try to earn the liege lord's favor, while the heiress might try to work on the liege lord's wife and try to bring some domestic pressure to bear from there. Or she might try to maneuver the other would be suitors to embarrass themselves somehow, or, if she is more ruthless, get them to take on quests that they are almost sure to perish in (might backire, if they do complete them...).

What is the Period, by the way? A lady has a lot more leverage under Guinever (& Arthur) than she does under Uther or Anarchy.

What is the Period, by the way? A lady has a lot more leverage under Guinever (& Arthur) than she does under Uther or Anarchy.

Well, I'm not per-say running GPC... but I'd put us in the Uther period, though with an early introduction of the ideals of chivalry and courtly love among the younger members of court.

Well, I'm not per-say running GPC... but I'd put us in the Uther period, though with an early introduction of the ideals of chivalry and courtly love among the younger members of court.

That's makes it tougher for the youngsters ('shut up and do as you are told, who said love has anything to do with marriage?'), but also gives you a chance to play a conversion of the older generation to this newfangled idea and maybe get somewhere through that.

That's makes it tougher for the youngsters ('shut up and do as you are told, who said love has anything to do with marriage?')...

I've actually got that going on as well... we have another PK who is involved in a more conventional amor with a handmaid at court. She is shortly to be married to an older, glorious loyal vassal knight (recently widowed) and I've got him struggling with "love is just a game, marriage is a politics."


... but also gives you a chance to play a conversion of the older generation to this newfangled idea and maybe get somewhere through that.

Yes... I can see our heiress trying to convince the liege lord's wife as well as her guardian's wife (who is already a bit sympathetic to her, else she wouldn't be able to get away with as much as she does).

Great ideas. I would love to hear any other ideas people might have. :)

The son and noblewoman are both player characters?

you could of course create a love triangle or even worse.
Another knight may take a liking to the young woman. The knight may be better connected or richer or more famous and if he saves her from harm maybe she even feels a bit for him. In the end she has to choose between both knights. If the son is also a PK he may be inclined to outshine the other and this may create some interesting adventures. The woman may be able to play them against each other and as such keep on adventuring. But in the end she has to pick one and who will that be?

The same could be done with the son. Maybe another lady fancies him and sees the young noblewoman as a threat. This may create some interesting courtly scheming. Escpecially if the other woman shows what it is to be a proper lady. This could become even a political problem if the lady's father and the son's father decide this may be a good way to unite their families and strengthen the bonds of friendship. This is nice option if the son is not a PK.