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dwarinpt
01-27-2017, 11:51 AM
Just a bit of clarification required in The Great Pendragon Campaign (thank Bran's Head for the Search function!):

The Queen's Knights are created in 519 (GPC, p. 183, under Gossip).

Guinevere commissions the writing the Rules of Love in 529, although we can assume she's been outlining them in the years before (GPC, p. 211, under Gossip).

The Court of Love is only explained in detail in year 531 of the GPC on page 235.

On page 173 of the core rulebook, under Queen's Knights, it is explained that "sometime after inaugurating the Court of Romance", Guinevere creates the Queen's Knights.

Is the Court of Romance the same as the Court of Love? I assume and it is a discrepancy in writing. However, it begs the questions, according to GCP, the Queen's Knights were created first, whereas in the rulebook, they were created at the same time (or almost). Could there be some proto-version of the Court of Love going on much like the first tournaments?

The Rules of Love are not stated explicitly anywhere, are they?

The passion Amour is introduced when Guinevere becomes queen (in my campaign it is). However, since Amour is the act of unrequited love without sex, isn't it associated with the Court of Love?

Is the Lover's Solo only appropriate after the Court of Love is introduced (although the book says after King Arthur marries Guinevere)? This goes back to the proto-Court of Love I wrote about earlier.

dwarinpt
07-11-2017, 12:51 PM
Wow, 6 months with no replies. :-) No one has any ideas about this?

Greg Stafford
07-12-2017, 10:11 PM
On page 173 of the core rulebook, under Queen's Knights, it is explained that "sometime after inaugurating the Court of Romance", Guinevere creates the Queen's Knights.

Sometimes, in compiling that mighty tome, I felt uncompelled to nail every date down, leaving it to the GM to decide


Is the Court of Romance the same as the Court of Love? I assume and it is a discrepancy in writing. However, it begs the questions, according to GCP, the Queen's Knights were created first, whereas in the rulebook, they were created at the same time (or almost). Could there be some proto-version of the Court of Love going on much like the first tournaments?

Yes. Court of Love = Court of Romance
Yes, there would be some kind of unofficial version before the formalization


The Rules of Love are not stated explicitly anywhere, are they?

The Rules of Love
A knight seeking Romance must keep the Rules of Love:
1. Thou shalt avoid avarice like a deadly pestilence and shalt embrace its opposite.
2. Thou shalt keep thyself chaste for the sake of her whom thou lovest.
3. Thou shalt not knowingly strive to break up a correct love affair that someone else is engaged in.
4. Thou shalt not choose for thy love anyone whom a natural sense of shame forbids thee to marry.
5. Be mindful completely to avoid falsehood.
6. Thou shalt not have many who know of thy love affair.
7. Being obedient in all things to the commands of ladies, thou shalt ever strive to ally thyself to the service of Love.
8. In giving and receiving love's solaces let modesty be ever present.
9. Thou shalt speak no evil.
10. Thou shalt not be a revealer of love affairs.
11. Thou shalt be in all things polite and courteous.
12. In practising the solaces of love thou shalt not exceed the desires of thy lover.
13. Thou shalt be jealous of thy lover
--Andreas Capellanus, The Art of Courtly Love



The passion Amour is introduced when Guinevere becomes queen (in my campaign it is). However, since Amour is the act of unrequited love without sex, isn't it associated with the Court of Love?

Yes, it is. The court of Love is all about Amor


Is the Lover's Solo only appropriate after the Court of Love is introduced (although the book says after King Arthur marries Guinevere)? This goes back to the proto-Court of Love I wrote about earlier.