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dwarinpt
02-10-2017, 01:53 AM
This storyline revolves around the heir to the Glavoie throne who fled the kingdom at the young age of 15 and is now seeking help to regain the throne. I want to involve the NPC in several adventures with the PKs so I'm looking for ideas on what he would be doing in Logres? The young prince seeks help from Arthur, but not all the barons, dukes and earls are inclined to aid in a military for several reasons. What would the young prince be doing while he tries to persuade the lords to help him? Would he be staying with Arthur in his household? Would he be a special guest? He is certainly not a knight yet so I am not use on what his position would be. This has nothing to do with the storyline proper, but what position would the young prince occupy in his exile?

Morien
02-10-2017, 10:10 AM
Galvoie is a tiny little kingdom. If Arthur would like to help, he could easily roll over it with a couple of dozen of his household knights led by one or two Round Table Knights (RTKs), without involving any of his lords. I think you should up the ante. If this is happening prior to the Cambrian War, having Powys' large army be involved would be a good idea, IMHO. If it is Powys that has taken over Galvoie, then I can see why Arthur might hesitate to simply commit just his household knights. However, given Arthur's track record of victorious wars, it is somewhat difficult to see a situation where Arthur's nobles would refuse to back their glorious, successful, generous, chivalric and all around magnificent king, especially when it comes to something minor as stomping a little kingdom in Gales (even Powys is little compared to the full might of the High King). You'd need to set this to a time when there are bigger fish to fry, IMHO, such as the Saxon Wars.

As he is a prince, but not yet a knight, he should be squired. Suitable knights would be RTKs, particularly ones that are royalty themselves, such as Gawaine or Lamorak. This could give you an opening to get the Orkney-Gales feud to the fore, too. Arthur himself would also be a candidate, but then the prince would be pretty much stuck in Camelot (although that is likely in any case). Personally, I don't see making the prince a squire to one of the PKs, unless the PK is at the very least an RTK, too.

However, another option is that Arthur is not willing to help for some reason! This changes the dynamic completely; since the King is not inclined to help, the nobles are free to ignore the prince's request as well, and Arthur is not doing any heavy diplomatic lifting for the prince. This leaves the prince potentially as a penniless exile in a foreign land, and then I can very easily see him latching on to any potential allies, such as a group of reasonably heroic PKs. The problem here is that it might be difficult for the prince to place himself under a mere knight's orders; he is a prince, he should be in charge! Especially if he is still working on trying to gather forces to take back his homeland, his quest should take precedence over what the PKs wish to be doing in their 'free time'. This might also lead to some problems with the PKs' liege lord, who might not be so happy that they have become, in essence, household knights to this exiled prince.

dwarinpt
02-10-2017, 02:27 PM
Galvoie is a tiny little kingdom. If Arthur would like to help, he could easily roll over it with a couple of dozen of his household knights led by one or two Round Table Knights (RTKs), without involving any of his lords.

In my campaign, the young prince Colverin was forced to flee when his three sisters took over his lands. They are enchantresses allied to Morgana. Savage Mountains mentions the realm is lost inside an enchanted forest that is part of the enchantment weaved by the three sisters to keep strangers out. Arthur will command his army against Galvoie but the forces of magic are too strong and the army will not be able to get in. Time for the PKs to step in.


As he is a prince, but not yet a knight, he should be squired. Suitable knights would be RTKs, particularly ones that are royalty themselves, such as Gawaine or Lamorak.

Earl Robert is already a RTK. Best fit for the campaign really as I want the NPC near the PKs, interacting with them on a regular basis. Taking over Galvoie is best handle with a series of skirmishes, small adventures and so on, so involving Arthur, Earl Robert and a few other RTKs is best. In my campaign, Arthur feels honor-bound to help Colverin as his father was a very loyal vassal (like he helped Cameliard a few years back). Besides the PKs are involved in the Orkney-Gales feud so I'm throwing Gawaine into the pot.

scarik
02-16-2017, 02:40 PM
Seems like you have it well in hand. The prince becomes squire of Robert, a lord whose holdings are greater than many independent kings, and his favorites (the PKs normally) then get tasked with freeing the kingdom from the sorceresses.

Cornelius
02-16-2017, 03:11 PM
Assuming the young prince wants to become a knight eventually he needs to be squired. The best option for him is to squire for a strong lord, that may wish ot help as well. It will take the prince 4-6 years to become a knight and if the lord he squires for is willing they may try to help free his country now. Robert is a powerful lord so that would be a good option. Robert then can send his own men to try and free the kingdom from the sisters. They then have to hold it in the name of the prince, and that can be a challenge in its own right as well.

dwarinpt
02-16-2017, 06:53 PM
Assuming the young prince wants to become a knight eventually he needs to be squired. The best option for him is to squire for a strong lord, that may wish ot help as well. It will take the prince 4-6 years to become a knight and if the lord he squires for is willing they may try to help free his country now. Robert is a powerful lord so that would be a good option. Robert then can send his own men to try and free the kingdom from the sisters. They then have to hold it in the name of the prince, and that can be a challenge in its own right as well.

Exactly how I did it (and plan to follow on these events). Arthur and his Round Table knights tried to get to Galvoie but the evil sorceresses had already hid the small kingdom with magic. Arthur and his men lost their way and returned to Camelot by winter time. The young prince was squired into Earl Robert's house. He can then interact with the PKs on a more personal level and Arthur's failure to reach Galvoie is the PK's opportunity to shine in a few years.

Morien
02-17-2017, 06:20 AM
I missed your earlier response, dwarinpt. Sounds like you have things nicely under control, with Robert having the prince as his squire. It is believable (and fits the Arthurian style of individual knights managing to do what the armies failed to do) that the sorceresses would be able to see an army and prepare spells for it, but small bands of knights might slip through and start working on the sorceresses' downfall. You can even do it as a 'levelled' encounters if you want to, like Gareth's (Beaumains') adventure with the Color-Coded Brother Knights, taking down one sorceress at a time.