A question has arisen in our game concerning inheritance

Sir Alfred had a son, Sir Annoi, by his first wife, a lady of two manors. Many years after his first wife died, Sir Alfred married a second time, to an heiress of much goodly land. He has a son with her, named Sir Bosh.
When Sir Alfred dies, does his oldest son Annoi inherit his lands, or does his younger son Bosh, who is the direct descendant of the lady who brought the lands into the family?

A question has arisen in our game concerning inheritance

Sir Alfred had a son, Sir Annoi, by his first wife, a lady of two manors. Many years after his first wife died, Sir Alfred married a second time, to an heiress of much goodly land. He has a son with her, named Sir Bosh.
When Sir Alfred dies, does his oldest son Annoi inherit his lands, or does his younger son Bosh, who is the direct descendant of the lady who brought the lands into the family?


Simple.
When Sir Alfred dies, his eldest son inherits whatever ancestral manor Alfred might have owned, and whatever manors his mother owned (the two).
And then Sir Bosh inherits the land from his mother, whose blood he bears.

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Thank you Greg, that was very clear :)

Simple.
When Sir Alfred dies, his eldest son inherits whatever ancestral manor Alfred might have owned, and whatever manors his mother owned (the two).
And then Sir Bosh inherits the land from his mother, whose blood he bears.

-g


You mean Sir Bosh inherits only his mother's lands, or all three? (Why does Annoi the eldest get passed over for his father's lands?)

Simple.
When Sir Alfred dies, his eldest son inherits whatever ancestral manor Alfred might have owned, and whatever manors his mother owned (the two).
And then Sir Bosh inherits the land from his mother, whose blood he bears.


You mean Sir Bosh inherits only his mother's lands, or all three? (Why does Annoi the eldest get passed over for his father's lands?)

Sir Bosh inherits only his mother's lands.
Annoi does not get passed over: It says "his eldest son inherits whatever ancestral manor.."

--g

Ok, another case:

One of my landed players (due to the Kin Event Table) AA married a landed widow WW with a (under age) daughter DD.

Case1 : AA and WW die, DD gains both manors, or more precise her future husband
Case2: DD marries before anyone dies, does her husband gain the WW manor?
Case3: AA&WW get a son, Son will inherit AA manor, but will he also inherit WW manor (since sons inherit and daughters dont)?

According to me it's dependent how WW got the lands. First I assumed that it is the lands of her dead husband who doesnt have any heirs except his daughter. Does his daughter then get the lands or his wife? I'd say the daughter as the heir. So the widow could then not have been landed.
So the lands of the widow was her dowry so that she retains those lands when her husband dies and only when she dies does it go to her daughter. But that likely means that the daughter is heir to the lands of her father or those lands went to some cousin.

Help??

fg,
Thijs

Note: Assuming the manors are grants in all cases.

Case1: The WW manor will be managed by DD's ward until she comes of age and is married. Then it goes to her husband. If there's a relative on AA's side to press a claim then the AA manor should pass to them. If there isn't then AA's line is extinct and the fief reverts to the liege lord who can decide what they want to do with it.

Case2: DD and her husband will inherit the WW manor when DD's mother dies. The AA manor should not go to them on AA's death (it should be inherited or revert), but that doesn't mean they won't be intriguing furiously to try and get it of course.

Case3: The son will inherit both manors if the WW manor was the mother's (ie didn't come to her from her first husband). That's patriarchal primogeniture for you, sucks to be a girl. If the manor originally belonged to DD's father then it should go to DD and her husband, but the son may well be intriguing furiously to keep both of course.

Regards
Luke