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srhall79
02-14-2010, 09:59 PM
Are there any Cymric Roman Christians? Looking in Book of Knights and Ladies, I can't find any homelands that have that combination listed. The standard traits by culture table (page 45) does have a listing, but the Cymri entry on page 24 only mentions British Christian and British Pagan as religions (if it matters, the proposed character would be from Salisbury).
Also, a part of the website seems at odds with the Pendragon 5E book. Carlion-on-Usk, from the Lands and Leaders page, says this:
Culture/Religion: Cymric/British Christian
Carlion, often called Carlion-on-Usk, is a nice little city, and the residence of archbishop Dubricus, the head of the Church of Britain (485-569).
while Pendragon, page 146 gives Carlion-on-Usk as the seat of a Roman archbishop. Page 148 lists Dubricus as the Archbishop of Britain who will be succeeded by Dewi, a Roman Christian.
Greg Stafford
02-15-2010, 12:39 AM
Salisbury characters have their choice to be Roman, British or Pagan Cymri.
Dubricus is Roman
So is Dewi/David
I'll explain the odd story of the Pelagian Archbishop of Eburacum in the Book of Clergy I'm working on.
Part of it is already on the site, under Eburacum.
Bleddyn
02-24-2010, 03:37 PM
Cymric the linguistic term (Cumbric-Brythonic) that emerged in the 6th Cent AD.... British or Brythonic is Cymryu or Combrogi you can cross that. The identiry of Welsh/Cymry emerged as the Anglo-Saxons, Picts and Scots gained the upper hand in the Isles. The Brythons/British are the same Cymryu that emerge as an identity in the early middle ages.
Greg Stafford
02-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Cymric the linguistic term (Cumbric-Brythonic) that emerged in the 6th Cent AD.... British or Brythonic is Cymryu or Combrogi you can cross that. The identiry of Welsh/Cymry emerged as the Anglo-Saxons, Picts and Scots gained the upper hand in the Isles. The Brythons/British are the same Cymryu that emerge as an identity in the early middle ages.
And modified for KAP. Everyone who lives in Britain is British.
The British that later become the Welsh (etc) are, here, the Cymri.
This is a question about religion.
Greg Stafford
02-24-2010, 03:56 PM
I'll answer the question this time.
Are there any Cymric Roman Christians? Looking in Book of Knights and Ladies, I can't find any homelands that have that combination listed. The standard traits by culture table (page 45) does have a listing, but the Cymri entry on page 24 only mentions British Christian and British Pagan as religions (if it matters, the proposed character would be from Salisbury).
Cymric/Roman does not appear at this Homeland scale of the game.
Many of the unchartered cities are Cymric/Roman now. The presumption is that they were once integrated into the urban network (Roman cult), but have readapted to local customs (their liege lords would be of a Cymric culture as well)
Also, a part of the website seems at odds with the Pendragon 5E book. Carlion-on-Usk, from the Lands and Leaders page, says this:
Some day everything will be all caught up and in order.
I find myself working and creating new material instead of updating the web site.
As a quickie though:
Both Dubricus and Dewi are Roman Archbishops.
Bleddyn
02-24-2010, 03:58 PM
Salisbury characters have their choice to be Roman, British or Pagan Cymri.
Dubricus is Roman
So is Dewi/David
I'll explain the odd story of the Pelagian Archbishop of Eburacum in the Book of Clergy I'm working on.
Part of it is already on the site, under Eburacum.
Getting deep here "Pelagians"..... somebody stop Bishop Germanus from showing up
srhall79
02-25-2010, 12:27 AM
I'll answer the question this time.
Are there any Cymric Roman Christians? Looking in Book of Knights and Ladies, I can't find any homelands that have that combination listed. The standard traits by culture table (page 45) does have a listing, but the Cymri entry on page 24 only mentions British Christian and British Pagan as religions (if it matters, the proposed character would be from Salisbury).
Cymric/Roman does not appear at this Homeland scale of the game.
Many of the unchartered cities are Cymric/Roman now. The presumption is that they were once integrated into the urban network (Roman cult), but have readapted to local customs (their liege lords would be of a Cymric culture as well)
Also, a part of the website seems at odds with the Pendragon 5E book. Carlion-on-Usk, from the Lands and Leaders page, says this:
Some day everything will be all caught up and in order.
I find myself working and creating new material instead of updating the web site.
As a quickie though:
Both Dubricus and Dewi are Roman Archbishops.
Thank you for both responses. I had already figured I'd change things if needed to fit , but I wanted to know how much I would be changing things. I'm interested in seeing how Roman and British Christian knights will function together, but having to give up Cymric culture for Roman Christianity seemed too harsh.
If the Book of Clergy comes out as good as the other Books of..., I'll be looking forward to it.
Atgxtg
02-25-2010, 12:43 AM
Salisbury characters have their choice to be Roman, British or Pagan Cymri.
The Book of Knights & Ladies doesn't offer Roman as an option. Neither does the list of 100 homelands on the website.
I take this is a correction/update to the Book of K&L?
On a somewhat related note, how plausible is a Roman (in culture) Cymric Christian? What about a Roman pagan?
Greg Stafford
02-26-2010, 03:16 AM
Salisbury characters have their choice to be Roman, British or Pagan Cymri.
The Book of Knights & Ladies doesn't offer Roman as an option. Neither does the list of 100 homelands on the website.
I take this is a correction/update to the Book of K&L?
Oversight.
KAP p 27 offers Cymric/Roman as a possibility.
Greg Stafford
02-26-2010, 03:17 AM
Getting deep here "Pelagians"..... somebody stop Bishop Germanus from showing up
Yep.
Germanus has come and gone, and his mission was a failure.
Greg Stafford
02-26-2010, 03:19 AM
On a somewhat related note, how plausible is a Roman (in culture) Cymric Christian? What about a Roman pagan?
Anything in possible in a game.
However, of these a Roman/Cymric is more plausible.
The Romans have been Christian for centuries, especially in the cities.
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