Not too long ago I approach Greg and the nice fellows at Nocturnal Media and offered to start a wiki project for Pendragon. I wanted to create a community resource where we could all collaborate on creating more resources for Pendragon and Greg agreed that it would be a good idea. I've been working on the wiki on my own for a little while and it should be ready to release into the public soon.

Is this something you're interested in giving your participation? The idea is to have the wiki login be integrated with nocturnal-media.com once that site is ready for daylight. We've decided on a pretty liberal http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/"]Creative (http://"[url) Commons license[/url] so material can be freely distributed as long as it's attributed, noncommercial, and non-derivative.

What do you want to see on the wiki? Being a wiki, the site is very much open for anyone to add content and categories, but the main page/portal is locked down. Currently I have launching points for the books, errata, Essays, Q&A, House Rules, NPCs, Games/Groups, Adventures, PCs, online resources (links and stuff) for both Arthuriana, Pendragon, and general roleplaying.

Greg has agreed to let me republish much of the work he's put up on gspendragon.com. Most of this material stands well on its own, but some material like heraldry, lands and leaders of Pendragon, NPCs, and so on could really benefit from community collaboration.

Some neat stuff I've got brewing already:

Total Pages: 588, 318 of them are considered content
Detailed information about Pendragon editions and the books published for each
177 NPC pages (mostly stuff from Lands and Leaders and the early part of the GPC)
Character sheet templates for easy to create and easy-on-the-eyes stats within pages
Pages for all of the Lands and Leaders from gspendragon.com. This could become a great map/geography project for Pendragon
All of the collected heraldry from gspendragon.com. Again, this could benefit from community involvement.


These forums also generate a whole lot of great discussion and ideas. I'd love to see much of it end up on the wiki for easier referencing. Threads like the Stats for Round Table Knights are perfect for a project like this.

The wiki is based on Mediawiki, the same back end that Wikipedia uses. If you're familiar with the markup on Wikipedia, you're already ahead. Wikis have been a great resource for RPGs; I was first introduced to their value through the Exalted wiki hosted by White Wolf. RPG.net also has a great wiki that's chock-full of good material. My hope is that once we roll out with the Pendragon Wiki, we'll have another great tool to help Pendragon, Nocturnal, and our gaming community thrive.

Sounding fantastic! Sounds like a great resource, one I would certainly use, and contribute to from time to time. Count me in!

I agree that this is a fantastic idea. I would definitely use such a resource and probably contribute on a sporadic basis. Bravo!

Sounding fantastic! Sounds like a great resource, one I would certainly use, and contribute to from time to time. Count me in!


I would also be willing to contribute.

Robert Schroeder

An excellent idea. It sounds like you have done a huge amount of work already.

Sorry, I might be blind, but is there a link?

jolt

Sorry, I might be blind, but is there a link?


No, you're not blind. I'm waiting for Nocturnal to get some things in order with the rest of the site before the wiki goes public. If Greg or someone else at Nocturnal wants to open the gates before then, I wouldn't object.

No, you're not blind. I'm waiting for Nocturnal to get some things in order with the rest of the site before the wikjavascript:void(0);i goes public. If Greg or someone else at Nocturnal wants to open the gates before then, I wouldn't object.


Alas, all shall have to wait.
I am but one of a council of gatekeepers and the pressure of an "official opening" is what is providing the energy to move things along.

No, you're not blind. I'm waiting for Nocturnal to get some things in order with the rest of the site before the wikjavascript:void(0);i goes public. If Greg or someone else at Nocturnal wants to open the gates before then, I wouldn't object.


Alas, all shall have to wait.
I am but one of a council of gatekeepers and the pressure of an "official opening" is what is providing the energy to move things along.



Thanks, and fully understandable. I don't have a lot of "Internet time" and was afraid I might have missed something. What is Nocturnal's website? I tried finding them but my Google-Fu failed.

jolt

It is: www.nocturnal-media.com (http://www.nocturnal-media.com) but there's only a holding page there right now.

Thanks. I'll put it in my Favorites so that when it launches I won't have forgotten it.

So then KAP 5.1 is only available in pdf and not in print, correct?

jolt

That's right.

Is there any advancement on this topic?
I am building informations and maps about Malahaut which could fit very well into this Official Wiki...

There has been some slight glimmer of progress, a brief revelation of hope, a small measure of development on the wiki. Stewart Wieck has told me that progress will begin anew on the site soon.

A few folks have discovered the wiki and noted a problem with spam. I have since locked down editing and registration to eliminate the spambots and I think I've cleared out most of the spam itself. I don't see any harm in revealing the public URL now that editing and registration or offline. The site is at pendragon.nocturnal-media.com (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com)

While the site isn't ready to be fully revealed yet, I would like to talk a little about what I've got going so far and some projects

Much of what is on the wiki already is from gspendragon.com, with the permission of Greg. The nature of wikis leave the word of our Esteemed creator and author open for alteration and I'm not sure how to handle that. For essays and such, it is of course best to link to the original. Other materials, are more difficult to manage, like the Lands & Leaders of Pendragon, Errata, or general Q&A where content is split between many dozens of pages. Citing sources is, of course, critical. Pages will develop with a mixture of content from many people, but always provide a link back to gspendragon whenever there is a seed of material from Greg?

I have several content areas on the wiki that would benefit from WikiProjects. So far I have split the wiki into sections with some subsections are significant enough to warrant their own projects.

Meta: Site look & feel, the main page, templates, featured content, how-to's, communities, editors, etc.
Books: Pages containing information about published books, errata, authors, etc.
System & Setting: Q&A, Essays, House Rules, NPCs, Games & Groups, Adventures, Player Characters, Lands & Leaders of Pendragon

NPCs: There are already 175 NPC pages, shells mostly, but they're there
Geography: 178 entries, mostly or wholly based on Greg's Lands and Leaders of Pendragon page on gspendragon
Heraldry (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Heraldry_in_Pendragon): again, from gspendragon

Online Resource: Arthurian Literature, Other Arthurian Media, Arthuriana Online, Pendragon-Specific Online Resource, General Roleplaying Game Aides


The main page is locked down for all but administrators, but there is always room for changing/removing/adding the above categories. I would love to have editors to do some pathfinding on how these subject areas develop on the wiki.

There are some amazing thinks we can do with MediaWiki (the wiki engine used for the Pendragon Wiki, the most popular example being Wikipedia). For example, I've got some nice templates going that allow for semi-easily inserted character sheets. See Arthur (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Arthur).

Of course, none of this is final. Some content may disappear or be reshuffled before the site really goes live.

What do you think? Now that you've seen what I've dreamt up, what do you want out of the wiki?

One section / topic that seems obvious to me is "Pendragon Period" or similar: historical and pseudohistorical information adapted to the game.

(Corrected link to wiki in first post.)

Russell, have to say this is an impressive start. Haven't time to go through it in great detail right now, but it looks good and seems easy to navigate. There's clearly been a lot of work put in - and needs a whole lot more by the community at large - but it shows the potential for what such a site could achieve.

Having key people stated out and places described will make this particularly useful when running games - there's always that moment when you're called upon to describe someone or somewhere and the flicking through of books kills the moment. Having a small netbook open on this page and being able to quickly hit a link will speed things along tremendously.

One thing that might be good to develop over time is a section dedicated to fan submitted scenarios or scenario seeds and ideas. I'm sure many of us could come up with something.

One section / topic that seems obvious to me is "Pendragon Period" or similar: historical and pseudohistorical information adapted to the game.


That's perfect. I'll add it with the other online resource sections.

It seems again locked up or is it my skill with the internet tools?

There seems to be a problem with Nocturnal's hosting. If you go to www.nocturnal-media.com there is a site suspension error message. This doesn't look good for the site, but I've heard nothing from Nocturnal's end for some months now. I have no idea how temporary (or permanent) this might be.

The site is back online.

The Wiki (http://"http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com") is not dead. While Nocturnal-media.com still hasn't arrived, we have opened registration to the wiki.

http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&retu rnto=Pendragon_Libris_Wikipedius"]Create (http://"[url) your account here[/url].

Come on in and contribute. You might want to:

Add information on the already long list of official and unofficial NPCs (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Category:Non_Player_Characters).
Update details on every Pendragon book (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Pendragon_Editions) published under each edition.
[li]Help expand the Lands and Leaders of Pendragon (http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Lands_and_Leaders_of_Pendragon) section.

Or start creating brand new content. The only thing that's locked down is the main page. If there's not an existing content link that fits what you want to add, send me a message either here or on the wiki and I'll consider updating the content menus.

Not sure that's the right address Russell. Doesn't work for me. Think its supposed to be: http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin?

Sorry, I didn't proof my URLs properly.

The registration page is here: http://pendragon.nocturnal-media.com/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&retu rnto=Pendragon_Libris_Wikipedius

Merlin, your link is for user login; it also leads to the registration page.

Thanks!

I have successfully registered myself.... Where can I publish the maps of Malahaut?

Thanks

It's not possible to upload media (pictures or other files) to the wiki. You can either upload the images elsewhere and link to them remotely or email them to me and I'll upload them. From there you can add them to the appropriate article.

Hi Russel, great work and great potential *sprinkles glory*.

But your create account link above doesn't work. Nor does using the [Log in] in the upper right corner - even though it claims to be Account Creation as well...
So I don't know how Primo Cavaliere did it?

Then you have some tables of mine (House Rules) without the legend, ie shorthand explanations, making them quite hard to read. So if you look in the zip you got the tables from you'll find a readme with the legend.

Now for content, I'm too lazy to contribute with sourced material etc like NPC/lands etc.
But if you want I could always expand the House Rules with lots of stuff.

I've been totally consumed with work for the last several months and haven't even dipped a toe into Pendragon-land; I even had to hand my online game off to another (highly capable) game master.

I had to disable account creation to stop the spammers and even then I had failed to nix a few accounts that had already slipped through. I'm creating an account for you right now, Spoonist.

If anyone else would like access just let me know in a PM through here. I need your preferred login name (if it's not the same as what you use here) and your email address.

Thanks!

I can contribute what i have on Hartford, Huntington, and Essex the DeGannis clan I have all the names and stats for them! Even got stats on most of the knights of round table too! ANd post about the Land of the circle of gold if we are being allowed to use old published books no longer in print? Just let me know. I have allot of the 1st to 4th ed books we can stuff in this wiki.